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by **Beast** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:07 pm

Zechs wrote:But with the Hobgoblin it's on purpose.

Ah, true..... LOL *will not panic then* xD

by **Zechs** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:11 pm

Unholy Alliance Part I:

http://community.livejournal.com/scans_ ... 84657.html

by **beta ray bill** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:09 am

GOSD wrote:Agreed.

Norman shouldn't be in charge of anything.

It's like making Lex Luthor president or something.,,,

Whoops!

That was great.

Nah he should not but I will rage if indeed he is dead(though I have not seen him in a bit) I think when he shows up again(for one I might read that issue) it will be very random and kind of out of the blue

zech thanks for that

by **Zechs** » Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:20 am

beta ray bill wrote::lol:

That was great.

Nah he should not but I will rage if indeed he is dead(though I have not seen him in a bit) I think when he shows up again(for one I might read that issue) it will be very random and kind of out of the blue

zech thanks for that

Kingsley's last official appearance is in this thread. On a beach smoking a cigar and living the good life without fear of Green Goblin, Spider-Man, or obbessive wife looking to her avenge her husband after him.

by **Zechs** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:13 am

Unholy Alliance Part II:

http://community.livejournal.com/scans_ ... tml#cutid1

by **Big Dog** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:02 pm

This is my latest commission. He wanted an homage to John Romita Jr's first Hobgoblin appearance. I told him I'd try to keep it close, but that I'd still use my style. 9 x 12 - microns on bristol. JRJr's original on the right from Amazing Spider-Man #238

Figured it wouldn't hurt to post it here!

by **Zechs** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:23 pm

Big Dog wrote:This is my latest commission. He wanted an homage to John Romita Jr's first Hobgoblin appearance. I told him I'd try to keep it close, but that I'd still use my style. 9 x 12 - microns on bristol. JRJr's original on the right from Amazing Spider-Man #238

Figured it wouldn't hurt to post it here!

No, no it wouldn't. Thank you. :-D

by **GOSD** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:47 pm

Zechs,

I reread the Hobgoblin Lives mini this past weekend and it still angers me how easily Spidey "defeated" the Hobgoblin. Angers me.

It was like a 2 panel fight.

:smt013

Roger Stern needs to be punched!

by **Zechs** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:12 pm

GOSD wrote:Zechs,

I reread the Hobgoblin Lives mini this past weekend and it still angers me how easily Spidey "defeated" the Hobgoblin. Angers me.

It was like a 2 panel fight.

Roger Stern needs to be punched!

Well the thing is you have to look at this way.

Spidey fought the Hobgoblin when he was surprised and thought Daniel had gotten the tracers far away. He had no idea Spidey would find his hideout thus he had no plans of defense other than trusting Daniel.

Secondly, Spidey took away his arsenal (note Spidey aiming for the pouch the Goblins always carry with them and ripping it off Hobby) early on in the fight so all he had was his glider, strength, and finger blaster gloves. However given Spidey made it close quarters immeditaly right after Roddy thought his glider's smog took care of Spidey. By doing that all Hobby had was his strength.

And as shown Kingsley in the Stern stuff knew he be a dead man if Spidey caught him in a situation like that. Hence why he kept upping the ammo and getting Osborn's powers. Hobby knew his best chance against Spidey was with his long range weapons and stuff that's for Spidey singularly (see gas that nulls Spidey sense). However, Roddy's great mistake is his cockiness in his gear. He thought the tools would do their job. They didn't.

There was no escape for the Hobgoblin when Spidey finally got him where he wanted him. Spidey took away all his gadgets and made sure the fight was on his terms not Hobby's. That's how he wins in the end. By using surprise, then taking away Hobby's long range tricks, and making it a close quarters fight.

Also it was a three issue mini only and Stern did waste a ton of pages with the retcon.

by **Zechs** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:48 pm

Unholy Alliance Part III:

http://community.livejournal.com/scans_ ... 04056.html

by **GOSD** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:47 pm

Zechs wrote:Well the thing is you have to look at this way.

Spidey fought the Hobgoblin when he was surprised and thought Daniel had gotten the tracers far away. He had no idea Spidey would find his hideout thus he had no plans of defense other than trusting Daniel.

Secondly, Spidey took away his arsenal (note Spidey aiming for the pouch the Goblins always carry with them and ripping it off Hobby) early on in the fight so all he had was his glider, strength, and finger blaster gloves. However given Spidey made it close quarters immeditaly right after Roddy thought his glider's smog took care of Spidey. By doing that all Hobby had was his strength.

And as shown Kingsley in the Stern stuff knew he be a dead man if Spidey caught him in a situation like that. Hence why he kept upping the ammo and getting Osborn's powers. Hobby knew his best chance against Spidey was with his long range weapons and stuff that's for Spidey singularly (see gas that nulls Spidey sense). However, Roddy's great mistake is his cockiness in his gear. He thought the tools would do their job. They didn't.

There was no escape for the Hobgoblin when Spidey finally got him where he wanted him. Spidey took away all his gadgets and made sure the fight was on his terms not Hobby's. That's how he wins in the end. By using surprise, then taking away Hobby's long range tricks, and making it a close quarters fight.

Also it was a three issue mini only and Stern did waste a ton of pages with the retcon.

It was still too easy.

He needs to come back.

by **Zechs** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:52 pm

GOSD wrote:It was still too easy.

He needs to come back.

It wasn't easy. Spidey got lucky. But he can't come back right now. There's too many Norman lovers abound at Marvel.

by **spidertour02** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:45 pm

Zechs wrote:It wasn't easy. Spidey got lucky. But he can't come back right now. There's too many Norman lovers abound at Marvel.

Marvel's next big event should be a balls-out GOBLIN WAR. Norman Osborn vs. Roderick Kingsley vs. Harry Osborn vs. anybody that gets in their goddamn way. Hell, it gives them a great opportunity to kill off Menace.

by **GOSD** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:44 pm

spidertour02 wrote:Marvel's next big event should be a balls-out GOBLIN WAR. Norman Osborn vs. Roderick Kingsley vs. Harry Osborn vs. anybody that gets in their goddamn way. Hell, it gives them a great opportunity to kill off Menace.

I hate that character.

When Menace and Norman fought a few issues ago, I was like "Why in the fuck isn't Norman wiping the floor with this idiot?"

by **Zechs** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:07 pm

GOSD wrote:I hate that character.

When Menace and Norman fought a few issues ago, I was like "Why in the fuck isn't Norman wiping the floor with this idiot?"

The only reason why was because I think Norman thought it was Harry or knew. That was the only reason why he didn't take the fight seriously. But really Menace is a menace. If Harry doesn't take her out and she endures damnit!

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