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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Jack Burton » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:06 pm

habitual wrote:
OK I'll give you that, I'll still stand by it took them forever, 40 years is a long god damn time.

X-men was good, not great, still not making any headway.

Hab


Sorry but you can't really use the 50 years argument. It took DC 40 years to make a Superman movie in 1978. So really you should start there on where Marvel should have gotten off their ass and started make good movies.

Even then you have to realize that Marvel didn't have the luxury of being owned by a multimedia conglomerate like WB.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Arion » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:19 pm

Chris wrote:Chew isn't very good.

I'd rank their top 10:

1. Saga
2. Fatale
3. The Manhattan Projects
4. Glory
5. Prophet
6. Invincible
7. Mind The Gap
8. Morning Glories
9. Thief of Thieves
10. The Walking Dead


That's a good list of ongoings but what about minis?
They've been putting out a lot of really amazing miniseries in the past 2, 3 years.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby habitual » Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:50 pm

Bump.

I'm wondering if anyone's opinion has changed in the last few months, as Images quality output and number of good writers has increased (imo) over the last few months.

The Private Eye is the best book no one is talking about now imo.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby mrorangesoda » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:44 am

habitual wrote:The Private Eye is the best book no one is talking about now imo.

Hab


That's not an Image book :P

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby fieldy snuts » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:54 am

Is Image really winning if their best books are basically indie creator-owned stuff and not editorially managed stories? Don't get me wrong, they do have great books in that vein but giving the credit to Image as a company for giving us these things when all they are is a conduit for creators to manifest their stuff?

BTW season 3 basically validated Punchy on the Walking Dead tv show thing.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Frag » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:52 am

I don't understand Image's business model. Do they make any money off the TV development anyway?

It seems like it's tough to compare Image to DC or Marvel, because Image feels like many different pieces that are part of one larger puzzle. That's why there's labels within the main label.

So while Image is putting out amazing comics, I don't think the comparison works.
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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby LobsterJ » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:21 am

ReturnoftheMack wrote:I don't understand Image's business model. Do they make any money off the TV development anyway?



According to the FAQ on their website,

"Does Image take my film and television rights?

No. You own ALL of your rights."

So I guess no, which makes Robert Kirkman even richer. The Bass weeps.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby LobsterJ » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:23 am

Also from their FAQ, to clarify their business model. Obviously this would be different if you are working on say a Spawn book for Todd or whatever and I believe Kirkman's Skybound imprint takes a piece if you publish through him.

"How does publishing a comic book or graphic novel through Image work?

Image was set up so that creators could do what they want with their creations, and reap the benefits financially. When a book is published by Image, creators are not paid up front. It can sometimes be two or three months before one sees money from a book. It sounds rough, and it most definitely can be. But if it’s done right, the payoff can be far more rewarding than producing a book in the conventional manner.

When the creator does finally get paid, they get paid on what their book makes after the cost of printing and Image’s modest office fee, which covers solicitations, traffic, production, and some promotion of the book. We make no more money off of our highest selling book than we do our lowest."

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby covalesky » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:13 am

GHERU wrote:I'd read Chew over Morning Glories any day of the week
other than that, and not counting the books I haven't read, good list


X2.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby bkthomson » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:00 pm

Chew chew chew chew.
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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby bkthomson » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:01 pm

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Stalzer2002 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:17 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:Is Image really winning if their best books are basically indie creator-owned stuff and not editorially managed stories? Don't get me wrong, they do have great books in that vein but giving the credit to Image as a company for giving us these things when all they are is a conduit for creators to manifest their stuff?

BTW season 3 basically validated Punchy on the Walking Dead tv show thing.


I think that they deserve credit for their business model. Between Image, DC and Marvel, we have three very different models. At Image, creators have complete authority over their books. At DC, editors have complete authority over their books. Marvel's is a bit of compromise between the two, giving creators significant leeway while editorial retains ultimate authority. Image has really driven the growth of the industry in the last couple of years, so they are winning. Image deserves credit for realizing that there's a better way of doing things.
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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Chris » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:35 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:BTW season 3 basically validated Punchy on the Walking Dead tv show thing.


That can't be true. I don't recall Punchy saying Season 3 was solid. :D
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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby fieldy snuts » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:17 pm

Chris wrote:
That can't be true. I don't recall Punchy saying Season 3 was solid. :D
because it sucked.

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Re: So is Image winning?

Postby Chris » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:31 pm

You sucked.
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