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Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby GLX » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:04 pm

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Are you ready for some teenage violence?

Avengers Arena #1

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DENNIS HOPELESS (W)
KEV WALKER (A)
Cover by DAVE JOHNSON
Variant cover by MIKE PERKINS
Young Baby Variant by SKOTTIE YOUNG
Blank cover variant Also Available
Trapped on an isolated island, 16 superhuman young adults (including cult faves like members of the Runaways, The Avengers Academy and Darkhawk) are given a chilling ultimatum by their demented captor: Fight or die…only one will walk out alive! Thus begins a primal battle that will test the skills, stamina and morals of each combatant. Welcome to Murder World, where the secrets are plenty, alliances are fleeting, and the key to victory might be rewriting the rules of the game. Who will survive? The rising star team of Dennis Hopeless (X-MEN: SEASON ONE) and Kev Walker (THUNDERBOLTS) dare you to tune in to your new favorite comic NOW!
32 PGS./Rated T …$2.99


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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby GLX » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:06 pm

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001. Daredevil #82 - 8.13
002. Exiles #77 - 6.29
003. Jonah Hex #5 - 6.26
004. American Virgin #1 - 7.7
005. Birds of Prey #92 - 6.41
006. Squadron Supreme #1 - 7.66
007. Blue Beetle #1 - 5.95
008. Aquaman: SoA #41 - 6.67
009. DMZ #6 - 7.65
010. Captain America #17 - 7.43
011. Thing #6 - 7.03
012. Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #8 - 7.68
013. Cable & Deadpool #28 - 7.45
014. Fell #5 - 8.81
015. X-Factor #7 - 7.84
016. My Inner Bimbo #1 - 6.38
017. Wonder Woman #1 - 7.3
018. Green Lantern Corps #1 - 5.65
019. Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #1 - 5.38
020. New Avengers #21 - 6.12
021. Detective Comics #821 - 8.05
022. Ultimate Spider-Man #97 - 7.86
023. Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters #1 - 4.17
024. Batman #655 - 7.69
025. Usagi Yojimbo #95 - 6.41
026. Sonic the Hedgehog #165 - 6.5
027. The Boys #1 - 7.3
028. Heroes for Hire #1 - 6.25
029. Ultimate Fantastic Four #33 - 5.75
030. Local #6 - 9.1
031. Thunderbolts #106 - 6.14
032. Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. #8 - 8.34
033. True Story, Swear to God #1 - 7.69
034. Criminal #1 - 7.63
035. Fables #1/#54 - 8.83
036. WildCats #1 - 6.51
037. Action Comics #844 - 7.22
038. Incredible Hulk #100 - 7.5
039. Franklin Richards, Son of a Genius: Happy Franksgiving - 4.32
040. Texas Chainsaw Massacre #1 - 4.34
041. Punisher War Journal #1 - 6.54
042. Immortal Iron Fist #1 - 7.35
043. Spider-Man: Reign #1 - 4.79
044. The Spirit #1 - 7.67
045. New Avengers: Illuminati #1 - 7.33
046. Winter Soldier: Winter Kills - 8.27
047. Amazing Spider-Man #537 - 6.94
048. Thunderbolts #110 - 6.75
049. Red Menace #3 - 7.43
050. Moon Knight #7 - 5.86
051. Ultimate Civil War Spider-Ham Crisis #1 - 6.21
052. Action Comics Annual #10 - 7.87
052. All New Atom #8 - 6.98
052. Dark Tower #1 - 8.61
052. Fantastic Four: The End #5 - 8.55
052. Fell #7 - 9.03
052. newuniversal #3 - 8.13
052. Pirates of Coney Island #4 - 7.93
052. Ultimate Spider-Man #105 - 7.7
052. Uncanny X-Men #483 - 6.47
053. Batman #663 - 3.83
054. Civil War #7 - 7.2
055. Runaways #24 - 9.01
056. Punisher MAX #45 - 7.47
057. Blade #7 - 6.08
058. Army@Love #1 - 6.38
059. Blue Beetle #13 - 6.4
060. Avengers: The Initiative #1 - 7.27
061. Nova #1 - 6.92
062. Cable & Deadpool #39 - 5.92
063. Catwoman #66 - 7.06
064. 52 Week Fifty-Two - 7.15
065. Countdown #51 - 6.8
066. Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #12 - 6.31
067. Captain America #26 - 8.28
068. Witchblade #106 - 5.81
069. Invincible #42 - 8.35
070. Sub-Mariner #1 - 5.54
071. Highwaymen #1 - 7.87
072. Superman/Batman #37 - 4.6
073. Dynamo 5 #5 - 6.28
074. Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #1 - 6.63
075. Lone Ranger #7 - 7.54
076. X-Men #201 - 4.76
077. Metal Men #1 - 6.18
078. Green Lantern #22 - 7.85
079. Pilot Season: Ripclaw - 5.89
080. X-Men: First Class #3 - 7.53
081. Teen Titans #50 - 8.02
082. Buffy the Vampire Slayer #6 - 6.96
083. Punisher War Journal #11 - 5.22
084. World War Hulk #4 - 6.96
085. All-Star Batman & Robin #7 - 6.43
086. Vinyl Underground #1 - 5.73
087. Green Arrow & Black Canary #1 - 8.27
088. The Sword #1 - 6.89
089. She-Hulk #22 - 7.38
090. Tales of the Fear Agent: Twelve Steps in One - 6.18
091. Annihilation: Conquest #1 - 6.93
092. Batman and the Outsiders #1 - 6.87
093. Flash #234 - 5.72
094. Gotham Underground #2 - 5.52
095. Ultimates 3 #1 - 4.8
096. Amazing Spider-Girl #15 - 6
097. Birds of Prey #113 - 7.16
098. Pax Romana #1 - 8.59
099. Hack/Slash #7 - 6.97
100. HULK #1 - 7.19
101. Booster Gold #6 - 7.68
102. Order #7 - 6.97
103. Narcopolis #1 - 5.37
104. Reviewer's Choice -
105. Tiny Titans #1 - 6.81
106. Loaded Bible 3: Communion - 8.68
107. Project Superpowers #1 - 5.93
108. Echo #1 - 8.34
109. Mighty Avengers #10 - 7.12
110. Iron Man: Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. #27 - 7.73
111. Proof #6 - 8.48
112. Secret Invasion #1 - 7.95
113. Titans #1 - 6
114. Noble Causes #32 - 7.26
115. Hulk vs. Hercules: When Titans Collide - 7.39
116. DC Universe 0 - 4.94
117. House of Mystery #1 - 7.77
118. Captain Britain and MI:13 #1 - 7.36
119. Checkmate #26 - 4.09
120. Final Crisis #1 - 6.91
121. The Boys #19 - 8.3
122. Skaar: Son of Hulk #1 - 5.53
123. Transformers Spotlight: Cyclonus - 5.92
124. Trinity #4 - 5.15
125. Jonah Hex #33 - 8.7
126. I Kill Giants #1 - 7.55
127. Batgirl #1 - 5.23
128. Uncanny X-Men #500 - 6.22
129. Wildcats #1 - 7.33
130. Venom: Dark Origin #1 - 7.16
131. Astonishing X-Men #26 - 5.12
132. Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds #1 - 7.67
133. Runaways #1 - 7.34
134. Marvel Apes #1 - 6.15
135. Star Wars: The Clone Wars #1 - 6.22
136. Iron Man: Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. #33 - 7.25
137. Back to Brooklyn #1 - 5.58
138. Four Eyes #1 - 9.26
139. Green Lantern Corps #29 - 6.16
140. Ghost Rider #28 - 7.44
141. Unknown Soldier #1 - 8.66
142. Amazing Spider-Man #575 - 6.98
143. Final Crisis: Resist - 6.44
144. Batman: Cacophony #1 - 7.37
145. Deadpool #4 - 6.57
146. Ms. Marvel #33 - 5.97
147. Secret Invasion #8 - 7.15
148. Punisher: War Zone #1 - 7.17
149. Ex Machina #40 - 8.11
150. Immortal Iron Fist #21 - 8.21
151. Incognito #1 - 8.65
152. Punisher #1 - 6.25
153. G.I. Joe #1 - 6.68
154. Hellblazer #251 - 6.94
155. Justice Society of America #23 - 6.53
156. Watchmen - 9.88
157. Batman #686 - 8.84
158. Amber Atoms #1 - 4.25
159. Runaways #7 - 5.25
160. Superman: World of New Krypton #1 - 6.68
161. Guardians of the Galaxy #11 - 6.41
162. Invincible #60 - 7.08
163. Muppet Show #1 - 6.66
164. Flash: Rebirth #1 - 6.93
165. Wolverine: Weapon X #1 - 6.52
166. The Strange Adventures of H.P. Lovecraft #1 - 7.82
167. Ghost Rider #34 - 8.82
168. Phonogram: The Singles Club #2 - 6.33
169. Final Crisis Aftermath: Run! #1 - 7
170. Unwritten #1 - 8.53
171. The Boys: Herogasm #1 - 7.09
172. Last Days of Animal Man #1 - 6.23
173. Batman and Robin #1 - 8.01
174. Amazing Spider-Man #597 - 7.19
175. Transformers Spotlight: Cliffjumper - 7
176. Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men: Utopia - 6.62
177. Justice League: Cry for Justice #1 - 6.71
178. Wednesday Comics #1 - 7.84
179. Blackest Night #1 - 8.87
180. Immortal Weapons #1 - 7.17
181. Mice Templar: Destiny #1 - 7.81
182. Doom Patrol #1 - 5.12
183. Ultimate Comics Avengers #1 - 7.14
184. Daredevil #500 - 8.62
185. Fantastic Four #570 - 6.9
186. Sweet Tooth #1 - 8.1
187. Dark Reign: The List - Avengers - 5.95
188. Beasts of Burden #1 - 8.73
189. Wolverine: Giant Size Old Man Logan - 7.95
190. Teen Titans #75 - 4.67
191. Haunt #1 - 6.6
192. Unwritten #6 - 7.41
193. Azrael #1 - 4.11
194. Dark Avengers: Ares #1 - 6.79
195. Deadpool Team-Up #899 - 5.24
196. Locke & Key: Crown of Shadows #1 - 6.96
197. Punisher #11 - 7.39
198. Image United #1 - 3.53
199. Jonah Hex #50 - 9.23
200. Invincible Iron Man #21 - 7.45
201. Walt Disney Comics & Stories #701 - 5.85
202. Hellboy: The Bride of Hell - 7.32
203. Webcomics Week -
204. Siege #1 - 7.84
205. Amazing Spider-Man #617 - 8.39
206. Joe the Barbarian #1 - 7.97
207. Robocop #1 - 3.59
208. FREE4ALL -
209. Choker #1 - 6.17
209. Tails of the Pet Avengers - 7.04
210. Supergirl #50 - 5.34
211. X-Men Forever #18 - 5.35
212. First Wave #1 - 6.98
213. Daytripper #4 - 7.19
214. Irredeemable #12 - 6.28
215. Amazing Spider-Man #626 - 5.18
216. Blackest Night #8 - 6.41
217. S.H.I.E.L.D. #1 - 9.23
218. Kill Shakespeare #1 - 5.36
219. X-Men Forever Annual #1 - 6.41
220. Siege: Secret Warriors - 6.53
221. I, Zombie #1 - 8.22
222. Heroic Age: Prince of Power #1 - 7.25
223. Avengers #1 - 7.51
224. Gotham City Sirens #12 - 4.39
225. Red Hood: The Lost Days #1 - 6.71
226. S.H.I.E.L.D. #2 - 7.57
227. New Avengers #1 - 6.15
228. Bullet to the Head #1 - 4.5
229. Deadpool: Wade Wilson's War #2 - 4.2
230. Batman & Robin #13 - 6.24
231. Gorilla-Man #1 - 4.81
232. Time Masters: Vanishing Point #1 - 4.79
233. Justice League: Generation Lost #6 - 7.39
234. Baltimore: The Plague Ships #1 - 6.46
235. Thor: The Mighty Avenger #3 - 6.21
236. Tiny Titans #31 - 5.17
236. New Avengers #3 - 4.88
237. Garrison #5 - 4.71
238. 1 Month 2 Live #1 - 6.02
239. Billy the Kid’s Old Timey Oddities and the Ghastly Fiend of London #1 - 7.82
240. Steve Rogers: Super Soldier #3 - 7.73
241. Nemesis #3 - 5.17
242. Franken-Castle #21 - 6.14
243. Ultimate Comics Thor #1 - 5.88
244. Victorian Undead Special - 6.25
245. Kick Ass 2 #1 - 6.58
246. Incognito: Bad Influences #1 - 8.05
247. Superboy #1 - 6.81
248. American Vampire #8 - 8.17
249. Hellboy: Double Feature of Evil - 8.5
250. Batwoman #0 - 8.04
251. Daredevil #512 - 5.87
252. Booster Gold #32 - 7
253. Suicide Forest #1 - 8.16
254. Larfleeze Christmas Special - 4.89
255. Action Comics #896 - 6.92
256. Weird Worlds #1 - 2.02
257. Casanova: Gula #1 - 8.53
258. The Spirit #10 - 6.72
259. Fantastic Four #587 - 5.1
260. Week 260 -
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262. Hellblazer #276 - 5.28
263. Avengers #10 - 4.16
264. Secret Warriors #25 - 6.61
265. Ultimate Spider-Man #155 - 6.68
266. Morning Glories #8 - 7.5
267. Lorna: Relic Wrangler #1 - 3.46
268. Butcher Baker: The Righteous Maker #1 - 7.09
269. Brightest Day #23 - 4.38
270. Uncanny X-Men #535 - 7.5
271. Thunderbolts #156 - 5.92
272. Walking Dead #84 - 7.3
273. Avengers Academy #13 - 6.42
274. Fear Itself: Youth in Revolt #1 - 5.4
275. Hawkeye: Blindspot #4 - 5.5
276. Iron Man 2.0 #5 - 5.57
276. Secret Avengers #13 - 4.49
277. S.H.I.E.L.D. #1 - 5.67
278. Flashpoint: Emperor Aquaman #1 - 5.48
279. Northlanders #41 - 6.83
280. All Nighter #1 - 6.36
281. THUNDER Agents #8 - 7.95
282. Jonah Hex #69 - 8.84
283. Red Wing #1 - 6.1
284. Daredevil #1 - 7.92
285. Amazing Spider-Man #666 - 6.15
286. Severed #1 - 8.26
287. Detective Comics #881 - 8.81
288. Damaged #1 - 7.31
289. Ultimate Comics Ultimates #1 - 5.41
290. Uncanny X-Force #14 - 8.11
291. Static Shock #1 - 6
292. Criminal: The Last of the Innocent #4 - 6.5
293. Batman #1 - 6.98
294. Aquaman #1 - 5.87
295. Animal Man #2 - 8.04
296. Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #3 - 5.1
297. HP Lovecraft's The Dunwich Horror #1 - 3.67
298. Wolverine and the X-Men #1 - 8.09
299. Six Guns #1 - 7.6
300. Unwritten #31 - 7.8
301. Avengers #19 - 5.5
302. Infinite #4 - 3.5
303. Flash Gordon: Zeitgeist #1 - 5.58
304. Defenders #1 - 8.55
305. Black Panther: The Most Dangerous Man Alive #526 - 4.19
306. Amazing Spider-Man #676 - 4.19
307. American Vampire #22 - 9
308. Fatale #1 - 7.8
309. Severed #6 - 8.5
310. Hellblazer #287 - 9
311. Secret Avengers #21.1 - 6.06
312. Winter Soldier #1 - 8.88
313. Batwoman #6 - 3.88
314. Daredevil #9 - 7.33
315. The Sixth Gun #19 - 8
316. Moon Knight #10 - 6.75
317. Hulk #49 - 7.5
318. The Shade #6 - 7.13
319. Amazing Spider-Man #682 - 7.13
320. Avengers vs. X-Men #0 - 5
321. Swamp Thing #8 - 7.88
322. America's Got Powers #1 - 5.5
323. Reset #1 - 8
324. The Goon #39 - 7
325. Dial H #1 - 4.45
326. Dan the Unharmable #1 - 7.5
327. Dancer #1 - 6.58
328. Batman Incorportated #1 - 7.14
328. Youngblood #71 - 4.17
329. Star Trek The Next Generation/Doctor Who: Assimilation #1 - 6.21
330. Insufferable Weeks 1-6 - 7.71
331. The Massive #1 - 6.92
332. Baltimore: Dr. Leskovar's Remedy #1 - 8.6
333. Hit Girl #1 - 6 (Only one review was in.....seriously)
334. Infernal Man-Thing #1 - 7.25
335. Punk Rock Jesus #1 - 6.38
336. Captain Marvel #1 - 4 (Only one review in)
336. Avengers vs. X-Men #8 - 7 (Only one review in)
337. Debris #1 - 5.5
338. X-Men #33 - 4.4
339. Gambit #1 - 7 (Only one review in)
340. Before Watchmen: Rorschach #1 - 7.5
341. Rocketeer: Cargo of Doom #1 - 7.5
342. Uncanny X-Force #30 - 8.8
343. Action Comics #0 - 3.8
344. Batman #0 - 7.3
345. The Unwritten #41 - 8
346. Happy #1 - 7
346. Talon #0 - 7.5
347. Daredevil: End of Days #1 - 9
348. Uncanny Avengers #1 - 7.3
349. The Zaucer of Zilk #1 - 7.9
350. National Comics: Madame X #1 - 6
351. Bedlam #1 - 7.8
352. Storm Dogs #1 - 6
353. Great Pacific #1 - 6.2
354. Uncanny X-Force #34 - No reviews posted.
355.FF #1 - 6.5
356. Avengers #1 - 4.5
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby GHERU » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:14 pm

Good book
way better than I expected
not rewriting this though

story: 8/10
art: 7/10
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby Victorian Squid » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:14 pm

Once doombug posted the spoilers I lost interest in seeing heroes pretend-die.

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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby GLX » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:23 pm

GHERU wrote:Good book
way better than I expected
not rewriting this though

story: 8/10
art: 7/10


I'm tempted to copy/paste it just for others to dissect in the thread.

(And I'm speaking as someone who's done this before.)

Question to other members - are you cool with stuff like this? For now, I am but I want to see how others feel about it.
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby GHERU » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:37 pm

I'll copy and paste if you want
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby GLX » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:33 pm

GHERU wrote:I'll copy and paste if you want


Your call. For now, I'm fine with it as is. :smt102

I'm kind of just playing this by ear, since I'm still (relatively) new to being the leader of this group.
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:09 pm

Hey, guys! I went ahead and cut-and-pasted my review of the issue from Gheru's thread, since obviously, I wrote it in the format for this thread and honestly didn't notice the variance in thread titles until late yesterday. I hope that doesn't offend anyone and that it still counts -- I honestly did buy it with the intent of reviewing the first issue! -- ESF

First things first: What a cynical premise for a comic book. I don't quite know why Marvel is doing this...do books with young characters not sell anymore? Or did they look at their projections and simply see no use for these particular characters?

That being said: I said I would try the first issue because of one thing: I said it before, but years ago, I thought Kyle & Yost's X-Force of hunters and killers was the stupidest idea I ever heard...but the book turned out to be really good. Then I said they couldn't duplicate it again with Uncanny X-Force...and that book was very good, as well.

So, I decided to give this first issue a chance, because if there's one thing I believe about comics right now, it's that unusual ideas just might lead to unexpectedly good stories.

I'll say it: I liked this issue. Don't get me wrong, I think the death component is ridiculous in the book, and I don't know that it won't ever be ridiculous.

But I thought the execution of this issue, from the writing to the art, was good. It was.

I think this book is something that can and will be retconned at some point, in some way. Whatever characters die pointless deaths here will be brought back, and I'm approaching it that way.

But I am interested in seeing if the book can continue to be executed at a high level. I'm truly curious about that. I'm not familiar with every one of the 16 characters in the book, so I'm curious if Dennis Hopeless can introduce them and make me care about them over the span of the story. That is what I'm trying to see in this book, and I thought he did a pretty good job of it in this first issue, because while I was relatively familiar with Hazmat and Mettle, it was interesting to see the interaction between them before the outcome.

Arcade, too, was written well.

So, for me...

Story: 1 (the premise is pretty cynical, which is sad to say)
Writing: 8
Art: 8

I'll definitely check out the next issue, to see what Marvel's trying to do with this thing.
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby GLX » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:27 pm

Meh. I could try to be a purist and make some wack remarks about this being "in poor form", but I'm just glad that people are open to participating in the group (outside of voting on weekly polls). :) It's cool to see what was once a forum staple for weekly comic talk get some of its swagger back.

Anyway, I've read it and will be posting my thoughts later.
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby GHERU » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:30 pm

well, here's the review if you want to read it
its long, so in spoiler tags

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Avengers Arena #1
Written by: Dennis Hopeless
Art by: Kev Walker
Published by: Marvel

Its easy to look on Tumblr, Twitter, Facebook, or any comic book website (The Outhousers is the best) and see all the whining about Avengers Arena and just want all these kids to die just to spite these people who have been whining for (feels like) two years about a book that hasn’t even come out yet.

It’s really easy.

But, instead, and this is the weird part, I decided to read the book before deciding if it was worse than Honey Boo-Boo and because I like some of the characters and not morbid curiosity.

First and foremost, the main reasons I wanted to read Avengers Arena are named Darkhawk and Arcade (yes, I’m old.) Darkhawk was always that hero that you knew could be cool if he could just catch a break, and that break came with The Marvel cosmic event War Of Kings by Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning and continued into Realm Of Kings. On the flip side, Arcade was that silly villain who reminded me of early Bond baddies, with overly elaborate plans when a gun would do, and, yet, I’ve held out hope that, someday, he’d become the creepy toymaker worthy of the name Murder World. Avengers Arena #1 is sorely lacking in the Darkhawk department, but WOW is Arcade finally a badass.

Spoilers for Avengers Arena #1 to follow (to avoid them do a “ctrl-F” for “Thus endith the spoilers” and then scroll fast so you don’t see whats above that line)





All we know from the “before the credits” scene is that Hazmat and X-23 are in their 23rd day of something very unpleasant. It's so unpleasant that Hazmat ends up burning off X-23’s face, so that happened. After the credits page, the comic opens on Christmas Eve at the Avengers Academy campus, where boys play with their sentinels, living weapons learn how to play Ping-Pong, and teenage love is in the (radioactive) air. Next thing we know, our heroes awaken in stasis, being monologued at by a long haired, taller, skinnier version of Arcade than I’ve ever seen. This isn’t just artistic license. There is something going on here with Arcade that is different then before. Something awesome. He is “not the villain here. [He is] the God!” His new powers are not explained in this issue, but if I were to venture a guess, take a look at the New Avengers ad in X-Men #39 for a hint to what I think happened.

New and improved Arcade’s monologue confirms what we already knew: teenage heroes kill each other for his amusement. It’s a total rip off of something that was a rip off of something else (but that thing is Japanese so we ignore that it too was a rip off as well). Arcade even gives a nod to his inspiration for his new Murder World:

"Got the idea from a couple of kids’ books I read."

But, so what? That is Arcade taking an idea and making it (more) violent, like a pinball machine. That Arcade ripped off Hunger Games makes sense in the book, in continuity, and in character.

After the requisite fight where one bad guy defeats a group of heroes, we catch up with Mettle and Hazmat as they discuss their plans. Hazmat wants to beat in Arcade’s head. Mettle wants to do whatever they can to survive. While all this is going on, Arcade is counting down from 10; if the kids don’t decide who dies first, who the weak link is, he does. At five, Hazmat tries to burn Arcade to the ground and fails. Thus, Arcade’s choice is made for him, unless some one wants to step up.

Enter Mettle, making himself Arcade’s tribute, who is immediately blown up. There you go. There is your big controversy for issue one, Mettle died.

He died protecting the girl he loves.
He died hoping she’d figure out a way to live, to survive.
He died in character.
He died a hero.











Thus endith the spoilers

Avengers Arena #1 is a good comic book.

We can complain all we want about deaths in comics for shock value, that it wastes opportunities, that they don’t matter anywas, or that they are just plain played out. All of these are valid critiques of the current comic book industry and its bad comics, but, they are not applicable when a book is entertaining in spite of these complaints, and this one is.

Hopeless’ writing is spot on for these characters, from Arcade’s self-assurance, to the teenagers fear, confidence, and love. Its been a while since a villain in a Marvel book really creeped me out and made me actually fear for the heroes, but Hopeless was able to pull it off, with Arcade of all people. He deserves a medal just for that alone.

Kev Walker’s art reminds me of a cleaned up version of Chris Bachalo’s run on Shade, The Changing Man – and I mean that as a compliment. Looking at the last page is almost worth all the impending deaths on its own. Arcade’s smug look, combined with Hazmat’s horror at her situation, makes for a compelling “to be continued” image.

At least it did for me. I want to know what is going on. I want to know what the twist will be. I want to know why none of the adults noticed that the students are gone. I want to know, and this is most important, if I'm a right about Arcade’s new powers.

Take away drummed up controversy, hipster screams of “so and so did it first,” and crazy internet ramblings, and you are left with a good comic book that has a lot of potential for success or failure, depending on where it goes and how drawn out the initial “kill all the heroes” story-line goes.

That is, if you bother to read it before having an opinion.

When this book was announced, I was in the "wait and see what people say" camp. Now I'm in the "where is issue two already?!" camp.
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby GLX » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:37 pm

ElijahSnowFan wrote:Hey, guys! I went ahead and cut-and-pasted my review of the issue from Gheru's thread, since obviously, I wrote it in the format for this thread and honestly didn't notice the variance in thread titles until late yesterday. I hope that doesn't offend anyone and that it still counts -- I honestly did buy it with the intent of reviewing the first issue! -- ESF

First things first: What a cynical premise for a comic book. I don't quite know why Marvel is doing this...do books with young characters not sell anymore? Or did they look at their projections and simply see no use for these particular characters?

That being said: I said I would try the first issue because of one thing: I said it before, but years ago, I thought Kyle & Yost's X-Force of hunters and killers was the stupidest idea I ever heard...but the book turned out to be really good. Then I said they couldn't duplicate it again with Uncanny X-Force...and that book was very good, as well.

So, I decided to give this first issue a chance, because if there's one thing I believe about comics right now, it's that unusual ideas just might lead to unexpectedly good stories.

I'll say it: I liked this issue. Don't get me wrong, I think the death component is ridiculous in the book, and I don't know that it won't ever be ridiculous.

But I thought the execution of this issue, from the writing to the art, was good. It was.

I think this book is something that can and will be retconned at some point, in some way. Whatever characters die pointless deaths here will be brought back, and I'm approaching it that way.

But I am interested in seeing if the book can continue to be executed at a high level. I'm truly curious about that. I'm not familiar with every one of the 16 characters in the book, so I'm curious if Dennis Hopeless can introduce them and make me care about them over the span of the story. That is what I'm trying to see in this book, and I thought he did a pretty good job of it in this first issue, because while I was relatively familiar with Hazmat and Mettle, it was interesting to see the interaction between them before the outcome.

Arcade, too, was written well.

So, for me...

Story: 1 (the premise is pretty cynical, which is sad to say)
Writing: 8
Art: 8

I'll definitely check out the next issue, to see what Marvel's trying to do with this thing.


Averaging out those numbers, your score comes to 5.7. Should I count the story part of your score or just count the 8's?
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby 3MJ » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:40 pm

I'll review tomorrow.

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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:07 pm

GLX wrote:
Averaging out those numbers, your score comes to 5.7. Should I count the story part of your score or just count the 8's?


I think, for this particular book -- at least in my case -- you have to factor in the story rating, because it's so cynical. It panders to the worst aspects of this industry over the past 20 years, which is bloodlust combined with expendable characters. Not even pretending it isn't a rip from The Hunger Games, etc., is just really cynical.

So, yeah. I do think a "1" is deserved for the premise. But I don't necessarily think that precludes it from being a good book. The execution will determine that, and as I've said, I'm curious if Dennis Hopeless can write this well enough to overcome the stench of the premise.
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby Stephen Day » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:23 pm

My first question after reading this was, "when did Arcade get so powered up and when did he get long hair?" Beyond those two questions, this issue was better than I thought it was going to be. I really enjoyed the scenes with Hazmat and Mettle near the beginning. They made the ending that much more powerful.

Overall though, I can't say that this issue made me want to read this story beyond the first issue. It's well written, for what it is, however, the concept itself doesn't interest me as an ongoing series. Had this been a limited series, I suspect I'd be adding it to my pull list at my LCS.

It gets a 6 out of 10 from me.
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Re: Review Group #357 - Avengers Arena #1

Postby Amoebas » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:00 pm

A very interesting thing happened today with this book. Something I never expected.

I opened it.

I turned the page aand then another, reading the words set against the graphic imagery. Characters I've grown to like and care about, Mettle & Hazmat (from the only Avengers book worth reading these last few years) take center stage in what is obviously a set up that one is guarenteed to be dead before the story's end (and having seen Hazmat on future covers foretold Mettle's demise rather easily).

And then Arcade shows up and the only way we know that this is Arcade is because he says that who he is. Otherwise, this sure ain't the Arcade I'm familiar with (especially when he displayed god-like powers :roll: ).

At this point I could only guess that this new murder world is a virtual playground which would allow this Arcade to be able to replay his game once everyone was 'dead'.

And speaking of dead, when Mettle gave his 'life' honorably, it was just seemed so...stupid.

Just like this books premise.

Story -5
Art 5
Overall 0

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