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by **Rockman** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:49 am

I wish someone would repost Punchy's reactions to Larfleeze, that those were hysterical

by **IvCNuB4** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:49 am

Lord Ice wrote:Next you'll be telling us that Captain K'Rot will be the breakout star of 2013.

Giffen beat him to it

by **chap22** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:52 am

Rockman wrote:I read AA for a while, I thought it was a strong book but I never really got into it that much. I know some people here REALLY liked it and often said it was the best Avengers book on the stand.

Mettle just wasn't interesting to me, I mean you had Reptil, taskmaster's daughter, the lightning kid and hazmat who were all fairly interesting, and then you had Mettle who was like a really boring version of Collossus.

i was one of those. it WAS the best Avengers book on the stands. and i really liked Mettle (who's actually much more Thing-lite than Colossus-lite), but i can see why he's not for everybody.

by **chap22** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:53 am

Punchy wrote:Looks like these crazy posts are actually drying up now, because now that people have read the comic, rather than seen spoilers out of context, they've seen that it's a pretty fucking good read.

no. it's not.

by **Punchy** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:10 pm

chap22 wrote:no. it's not.

I read #1 and #2 yesterday and really enjoyed them, the art is amazing, perhaps Kev Walker's best ever work, and the Hopeless' dialogue is good too.

Plus, there's a sense of tension that most comics lack, the constant threat of death may be a little cheap, but it's effective.

by **doombug** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:21 pm

chap22 wrote:no. it's not.

actually it really is.

by **Like Master J** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:22 pm

Yeah I think it's been really fun so far. I'm wary of it being fake though.

by **Rockman** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:45 pm

I think Kev Walker has really improved since his days on thunderbolts, where I didn't really care for his art.

by **chap22** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:04 pm

doombug wrote:actually it really is.

i read issue 1. no, actually it really isn't.

by **nietoperz** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:11 pm

chap22 wrote:i read issue 1. no, actually it really isn't.

Ditto, and very much agreed.

by **Victorian Squid** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:14 pm

I didn't really even take a look at this, besides not liking the premise what is bad? Art? Writing?

by **doombug** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:18 pm

chap22 wrote:i read issue 1. no, actually it really isn't.

issue 2 is really good.

by **nietoperz** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:40 pm

Lenny Bruce wrote:I didn't really even take a look at this, besides not liking the premise what is bad? Art? Writing?

I just thought it was boring, mostly.

by **Herald** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:40 pm

Punchy wrote:Plus, there's a sense of tension that most comics lack, the constant threat of death may be a little cheap, but it's effective.

I am STILL Not Impressed.

"A cynic will say the main use of bringing in C-listers is so you can kill them off, creating a sense of 'change' without really affecting the universe in any way, ruining the attempt to make an Anyone Can Die and Tonight Someone Dies atmosphere when the only real deaths are these characters. Same with a Sacrificial Lamb.

"This is a double-edged sword. It certainly can be shocking and emotional to fans of the character, but remember... the main people who recognize these characters are the same people who will be most angry if you kill them off, whereas those who do not recognize them will not care. Thus, you toy with the emotions of they who are likely to be your most dedicated fans.

"Since newer characters tend to be more C-list than older characters, and also tend to include more females and minorities, this may lead to Women In Refrigerators and Bury Your Gays. Another disturbing tendency in the comic book industry is to use teenage super-team characters as this. It works dramatically because of the impact of a child (or young adult) dying, but is over-used to the point where the Teen Titans actually hang a lampshade on this frequently. Similar young teams the New Mutants and Legion of Super-Heroes also fall victim to this with regularity."

Call me when they're killing off Spider-Man (the REAL one), the Hulk, and all of their other BIG NAME characters, and KEEPING them dead for GOOD. Only then will "the constant threat of death" begin to mean anything.

by **Punchy** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:32 pm

fucken avengers arena has a lot to answer for

i probably would have been quite happy reading runaways but now i’m gonna avoid it like the plague because even if i stop reading avengers arena i’ll still know it’s there

killing off all those babies

fucking goddamnit

I shipped them for like, 5 seconds. And then he was killed.

i am in fucking love with this beautiful bastard i really hope he doesn’t die i wanna know what the fuck he can do and also maybe see his butt????

i mean chase is alive so clearly there is a chance for more gratuitous male nudity shenanigans

also he can cull in my bloodstone any day winku winku

Forever living in fear that one of the Young Avengers will turn up in Avengers Arena.

Avengers Arena was fucking worthless today

this pacing is horrible

Avengers Arena, the only way it could hurt more is if Joss Whedon wrote it.

Dear Young Avengers fandom,

Grats on the new series. Please chill on the freaking out over every little change to their appearances. All the other teen heroes are just getting massacred, and the original teen hero got replaced with his arch-villain.

Thanks a boatload, you guys.

Love,

Academy fans

My real problem with Avengers Arena is that Marvel is basically giving a big fuck you to their younger readers. They took any series that was marketed towards or written for a newer generation of comic book readers to grow up with and then they’re throwing the characters into a death match.

It doesn’t make sense at all. How are you expecting to maintain readership. The titles their harvesting from were all great to bring new/young readers who might not otherwise give comics the time of day. I know I was planning on giving my cousin Avengers Arena to read, but now I won’t because there’s no way in hell I’d let her read Avengers Arena and I know she’d want to keep reading about the characters after the Avengers Arena was axed. It is such a waste of good characters and it makes me think that Marvel doesn’t value their younger readers at all.

I’m just really annoyed.

Reblog if you will never, ever accept Avengers Arena as canon

Avengers Arena don’t you dare hurt my babies Nico and Chase. Laura you won’t kill, Laura is so popular it’s ridiculous. She’s female Wolvie. But Nico and Chase are my precious Runaways. Please.

I think I’d have pitched the fit of the century if Molly was in there.