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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby IvCNuB4 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:04 pm

I read it as Bruce went to Arkham so that he could observe Joker without Joker interacting with him as he would towards Batman. If he thought Joker's guard would be down Bruce could get more insight into Joker. Which is what happened. The unexpected twist was that Joker knew he was Batman but didn't see "Bruce" as anyone worth bothering with. His main focus is always Batman.
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Grayson » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:23 pm

I haven't actually read the issue yet but I was kinda hoping that Snyder would hit it out of the park. From the comments that I have seen so far, it looks like that is not the case. I'll try to keep an open mind when I actually read this issue later this evening but I have to say that considering the next issue features Harper Row, I think that this title may be dropped.
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby HNutz » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:52 pm

Grayson wrote:I haven't actually read the issue yet but I was kinda hoping that Snyder would hit it out of the park. From the comments that I have seen so far, it looks like that is not the case. I'll try to keep an open mind when I actually read this issue later this evening but I have to say that considering the next issue features Harper Row, I think that this title may be dropped.


ANOTHER Harper Row issue? Why, Snyder, WHY?!?

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Grayson » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:01 pm

HNutz wrote:ANOTHER Harper Row issue? Why, Snyder, WHY?!?


Here is the solicitation for Batman #18:

* Welcome guest-artist Andy Kubert!
* In the wake of unspeakable tragedy, Batman is in danger of losing his humanity!
* Fan-favorite character Harper Row returns-will she be able to pull Batman back from the brink?

Fan-favorite character?! When did that happen? I have no interested in reading another issue about Harper Row, so like I said, unless this issue is infinitely better than what I have heard I'm pretty sure that I am dropping this series.
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:19 pm

Grayson wrote:
Here is the solicitation for Batman #18:

* Welcome guest-artist Andy Kubert!
* In the wake of unspeakable tragedy, Batman is in danger of losing his humanity!
* Fan-favorite character Harper Row returns-will she be able to pull Batman back from the brink?

Fan-favorite character?! When did that happen? I have no interested in reading another issue about Harper Row, so like I said, unless this issue is infinitely better than what I have heard I'm pretty sure that I am dropping this series.


its how propaganda works. people who know no better will actually buy it and learn to accept harper row the fan fave character.

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby HNutz » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:20 pm

Grayson wrote:
Here is the solicitation for Batman #18:

* Welcome guest-artist Andy Kubert!
* In the wake of unspeakable tragedy, Batman is in danger of losing his humanity!
* Fan-favorite character Harper Row returns-will she be able to pull Batman back from the brink?

Fan-favorite character?! When did that happen? I have no interested in reading another issue about Harper Row, so like I said, unless this issue is infinitely better than what I have heard I'm pretty sure that I am dropping this series.


What "unspeakable tragedy"?
"Fan favorite character?
"Losing his humanity"

Meh.

I've been reading Snyder's Batman since the beginning. Want to guess the only issue I skipped?

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Grayson » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:22 pm

fieldy snuts wrote:its how propaganda works. people who know no better will actually buy it and learn to accept harper row the fan fave character.


So what your telling me, is that I need to launch a counter propaganda campaign in order to get the word out that Harper Row actually isn't a fan favorite character so that people won't fall for DC's tricks?
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Zechs » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:28 pm

chap22 wrote:seriously, dude...go buy Batman & Robin. you can thank me later.


I would but I hate Tomasi as a Batman writer. He ignores things in ways he shouldn't and are insulting.
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Zechs » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:32 pm

Grayson wrote:
Here is the solicitation for Batman #18:

* Welcome guest-artist Andy Kubert!
* In the wake of unspeakable tragedy, Batman is in danger of losing his humanity!
* Fan-favorite character Harper Row returns-will she be able to pull Batman back from the brink?

Fan-favorite character?! When did that happen? I have no interested in reading another issue about Harper Row, so like I said, unless this issue is infinitely better than what I have heard I'm pretty sure that I am dropping this series.


But nothing happened to Batman or the Family. All that happened was they got pissy at him just a tiny bit. Hell one of them is back already with him in Batman & Robin #17. So.... yeah either that solicitation is a lie or editors mucked up Snyder's story.
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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Juan Cena » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:38 pm

Zechs wrote:
But nothing happened to Batman or the Family. All that happened was they got pissy at him just a tiny bit. Hell one of them is back already with him in Batman & Robin #17. So.... yeah either that solicitation is a lie or editors mucked up Snyder's story.



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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Draco x » Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:43 pm

Grayson wrote:
Here is the solicitation for Batman #18:

* Welcome guest-artist Andy Kubert!
* In the wake of unspeakable tragedy, Batman is in danger of losing his humanity!
* Fan-favorite character Harper Row returns-will she be able to pull Batman back from the brink?

Fan-favorite character?! When did that happen? I have no interested in reading another issue about Harper Row, so like I said, unless this issue is infinitely better than what I have heard I'm pretty sure that I am dropping this series.


Yeah, you got me there-I didn't know that anyone actually cared about Harper Row.

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby chap22 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:25 pm

Zechs wrote:
I would but I hate Tomasi as a Batman writer. He ignores things in ways he shouldn't and are insulting.

lolwut?

WTF are you on about now?

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby Victorian Squid » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:38 pm

Harper Row sounds like a book publisher, not a character.

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby HNutz » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:44 pm

Zechs wrote:
But nothing happened to Batman or the Family. All that happened was they got pissy at him just a tiny bit. Hell one of them is back already with him in Batman & Robin #17. So.... yeah either that solicitation is a lie or editors mucked up Snyder's story.


I could see it being editorial.

Which makes me wonder what the original plan was.

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Re: Batman 17 (SPOILERS)

Postby fieldy snuts » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:19 pm

HNutz wrote:
I could see it being editorial.

Which makes me wonder what the original plan was.



Hype that leads to nothing like what we ended up getting IMO.

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