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by **misac** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:08 pm

Punchy wrote:I think they should involve Undertaker with Team Hell No more than CM Punk, are he and Kane still storyline brothers? You could have him angry with Kane that he's turned his back on evil and started hugging people.

Undertaker Vs Daniel Bryan for the soul of Kane!

by **misac** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:11 pm

Bianco wrote:

I would love a good 3-4 months of the Brothers of Destruction, just beating people up..

Who can stop the shield?.....Brothers of Destruction

Kane and Bryan have a match and Shield takes out Daniel, (you can throw in them winning the tag titles) Kane has no choice but to find his brother, 2 vs. 3 match at mania

that way taker doesn't have to deal with the stress of a full match

& just because...Paul Bearer as there manager I would buy Wrestlemania for just that alone

What about Bryan? He’d have no choice but to help the Shield if Kane left him high and dry like that.

by **Punchy** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:19 pm

misac wrote:
What about Bryan? He’d have no choice but to help the Shield if Kane left him high and dry like that.

Nah, he could just go and feud with John Cena for the WWE Championship (I'm assuming Cena will win at Wrestlemania)

by **Bianco** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:23 pm

misac wrote:
What about Bryan? He’d have no choice but to help the Shield if Kane left him high and dry like that.

He can be "injured" and be the corner man or something, or maybe another match somewhere

by **Grayson** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:39 pm

Juan Cena wrote:I don't think so. Not with WM XXX next year. You could argue that Taker could main event next year if he was facing Rock or Cena or maybe Lesnar next year.

That's assuming that the Undertaker will be in any shape to wrestle next year. The man only has to do one thing a year and he can barely do that anymore. I say, allow CM Punk to beat the Undertaker now, while it still means something and allow the man to retire. If anybody deserves to beat the Undertaker and end the streak, it's Punk. Ending the streak will not harm the Undertaker's legacy and one could argue that losing to another part-time wrestler won't hurt Punk but imagine what it could do for Punk in the long run. Giving Punk a clean win over the Undertaker not only washes away the questionable finishes he has been saddled with lately but it also firmly cements Punk's place in the WWE for years to come.

by **syxxpakk** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:56 pm

Juan Cena wrote:
I don't think so. Not with WM XXX next year. You could argue that Taker could main event next year if he was facing Rock or Cena or maybe Lesnar next year.

TBF, you've been making statements like this for the six months and almost none of them have panned out. You'll forgive me if I don't rush to accept your judgment.

by **syxxpakk** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:57 pm

Grayson wrote:
That's assuming that the Undertaker will be in any shape to wrestle next year. The man only has to do one thing a year and he can barely do that anymore. I say, allow CM Punk to beat the Undertaker now, while it still means something and allow the man to retire. If anybody deserves to beat the Undertaker and end the streak, it's Punk. Ending the streak will not harm the Undertaker's legacy and one could argue that losing to another part-time wrestler won't hurt Punk but imagine what it could do for Punk in the long run. Giving Punk a clean win over the Undertaker not only washes away the questionable finishes he has been saddled with lately but it also firmly cements Punk's place in the WWE for years to come.

I disagree. If anyone deserved to beat Undertaker, it was Randy Orton. The perfect meshing of storyline, characters, and way to truly establish a new star. At this point, I don't think anyone needs to beat the Undertaker and the streak should stay in tact.

by **Grayson** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:43 pm

syxxpakk wrote:I disagree. If anyone deserved to beat Undertaker, it was Randy Orton. The perfect meshing of storyline, characters, and way to truly establish a new star.

I honestly can't believe that was almost 8 years ago! Randy Orton would have been a good choice to end the Undertaker's streak, especially with the Legend Killer gimmick going strong. Although, I really think a strong case could be made for Shawn Michaels ending the streak during their second match at Wrestlemania XXVI.

At this point, I don't think anyone needs to beat the Undertaker and the streak should stay in tact.

It's obvious to me that we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I understand your desire to see the Undertaker's streak remain intact and I can understand the logic behind it but I definitely don't agree with it. To me, it is just like any other title or accolade that is just waiting for the right person to come along and grab it. Undertaker passing the torch to a guy who still have a good amount of time left in his career is the right thing to do at this point. I think that CM Punk is the type of guy who could really do something great following such a high profile win and I admit, I am a little excited just thinking about the amazing promo that he would cut the following night on RAW.

Honestly, I just don't want to see Punk lose to another part time wrestler, especially immediately after losing to the Rock twice. I know you don't think it would do anything to negatively impact his career but still, I don't want to see it. Yeah, Punk is the type of guy who would do it if it was good for business but the man deserves better than that. If the WWE is going to keep putting older superstars over the younger talent, they might as well buy TNA and bring guys like Hogan back to "run wild" all over the roster.

by **Juan Cena** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:47 pm

syxxpakk wrote:
TBF, you've been making statements like this for the six months and almost none of them have panned out. You'll forgive me if I don't rush to accept your judgment.

So a Rock vs Undertaker at WM XXX wouldn't be a main event match? Or Taker vs. Cena?

Note that I didn't say this was going to happen. I just said if Taker's last match was next year, It could be the WM XXX headline event.Especially if it was against Cena, Rock, or Lesmar.

by **Sunless** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:58 pm

This might be the first Mania I really don't care about. I have no interest in two of the biggest matches. Once in a lifetime part 2 and Brock/HHH 2 meh.

Swagger Vs Rio could be good, but it'll be on first. If they 18 seconds it I'll be pissed.

Punk/Undertaker should be interesting.

Oh and breaking up Rhodes Scholars so they can be mid card jobbers was really smart.

by **Grayson** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:17 pm

Sunless wrote:Swagger Vs Rio could be good, but it'll be on first. If they 18 seconds it I'll be pissed.

It looks like WWE is going to stand behind Swagger despite his pending DUI and drug possession charges but I don't really care about this match. Either Del Rio should retain the title or Dolph Ziggler should cash in his Money in the Bank contract and steal the win from Swagger.

Oh and breaking up Rhodes Scholars so they can be mid card jobbers was really smart.

Unfortunately, the WWE hasn't really cared about their Tag Team Division in a long time. It's sad really, especially now that RAW is 3 hours long and there are multiple shows each week but nobody seems to show much interest in rebuilding the division. Honestly, one of my fondest memories of wrestling when I was a kid was renting the second Survivor Series from 1988 at the local video store and watching the 10-on-10 Tag Team Elimination Match. I would love to see the WWE do something like this again to help strengthen and rebuild the Tag Team scene.

by **fieldy snuts** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:24 pm

@ Kaz.

He referenced that photo of Hogan running lotion on his daughters ass.

by **Sunless** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:27 pm

Grayson wrote:
It looks like WWE is going to stand behind Swagger despite his pending DUI and drug possession charges but I don't really care about this match. Either Del Rio should retain the title or Dolph Ziggler should cash in his Money in the Bank contract and steal the win from Swagger.

Unfortunately, the WWE hasn't really cared about their Tag Team Division in a long time. It's sad really, especially now that RAW is 3 hours long and there are multiple shows each week but nobody seems to show much interest in rebuilding the division. Honestly, one of my fondest memories of wrestling when I was a kid was renting the second Survivor Series from 1988 at the local video store and watching the 10-on-10 Tag Team Elimination Match. I would love to see the WWE do something like this again to help strengthen and rebuild the Tag Team scene.

With the media exposure the immigration angle has gotten and the Glenn Beck thing, Swagger is very very fricken lucky they didn't job him out faster than RVD. If they ever do punish him it'll be after Mania at this point.

As for Tag Teams, they were doing a good job building them up..... for about a month. Now no one cares again. I'd go as far as to say none of the belts except the WHC and WWE belts get any respect.

IC belt means nothing if Wade or someone else gets RKO'ed every week. US title means about as much.

They could have a good tag team division with Clay/Tensei, PTP, Usos, Epico/Primo, Hell No and Rhodes Scholars, but they dont care. They have the teams though so why! WHY!?

by **Sunless** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:30 pm

Grayson wrote:
It looks like WWE is going to stand behind Swagger despite his pending DUI and drug possession charges but I don't really care about this match. Either Del Rio should retain the title or Dolph Ziggler should cash in his Money in the Bank contract and steal the win from Swagger.

Unfortunately, the WWE hasn't really cared about their Tag Team Division in a long time. It's sad really, especially now that RAW is 3 hours long and there are multiple shows each week but nobody seems to show much interest in rebuilding the division. Honestly, one of my fondest memories of wrestling when I was a kid was renting the second Survivor Series from 1988 at the local video store and watching the 10-on-10 Tag Team Elimination Match. I would love to see the WWE do something like this again to help strengthen and rebuild the Tag Team scene.

With the media exposure the immigration angle has gotten and the Glenn Beck thing, Swagger is very very fricken lucky they didn't job him out faster than RVD. If they ever do punish him it'll be after Mania at this point.

As for Tag Teams, they were doing a good job building them up..... for about a month. Now no one cares again. I'd go as far as to say none of the belts except the WHC and WWE belts get any respect.

IC belt means nothing if Wade or someone else gets RKO'ed every week. US title means about as much.

They could have a good tag team division with Clay/Tensei, PTP, Usos, Epico/Primo, Hell No and Rhodes Scholars, but they dont care. They have the teams though so why! WHY!?

by **syxxpakk** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:35 pm

This has kind of have happened to the tag division for the entire history of the promotion. There was the golden age when you had teams up and down the card like the Hart Foundation, Rockers, etc. But right around the time of LOD/Nasty Boys/Money Inc, it floundered again. It didn't really pick up until the late 90s. There was a spurt with Bodydonnas, Godwinns, etc., but that was all horrible stuff. After the Hardy/E&C/Dudley/Smackdown Six days, it floundered again. It seemed to be picking back up when they unified the belts, but before you know it Primo and Epico, the modern day equivalent of the Killer Bees, held the belts. That, to me, might have been the lowest point in the history of the titles. But they've done a great job building up the division this past year.