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Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby Lord Simian » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:41 pm

Juan Cena wrote:And one can argue his involvement in the JSoA book is one of the things that caused the book's decline.


Ok, then, argue it.

I'm genuinely curious to hear your viewpoint. I haven't heard that argument before, so I'd like to explore it.


Also, please make my thread title make sense by not only presenting your argument, but also provide instructions on how to build a functioning car from coconut milk, dried grass, and bamboo. Thanks!
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby dairydead » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:43 pm

Back in the Kingdom Come arc?
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby sdsichero » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:01 pm

Lord Simian wrote:
Ok, then, argue it.

I'm genuinely curious to hear your viewpoint. I haven't heard that argument before, so I'd like to explore it.


Also, please make my thread title make sense by not only presenting your argument, but also provide instructions on how to build a functioning car from coconut milk, dried grass, and bamboo. Thanks!


Is Nac Mr. Howell or Lovey?
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby HNutz » Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:32 pm

sdsichero wrote:
Is Nac Mr. Howell or Lovey?


That's better than being "the rest", right?
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Postby Herald » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:11 pm

"...here on Nacireman's Isle!" :-D
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Postby bkthomson » Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:17 pm

am I reading this that he feels that it was Alex Ross who caused JSoA to go downhill?
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Postby BubbaKanoosh » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:34 pm

The Kingdom Come arc was horrible and went on too long. It shoehorned KC characters in to the story and forcing much loved characters off to the side. Vol 2 of JSA was nowhere near as good as Vol 1, and when Ross joined the creative aspect of the book it got much worse.
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby mrorangesoda » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:14 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:The Kingdom Come arc was horrible and went on too long. It shoehorned KC characters in to the story and forcing much loved characters off to the side. Vol 2 of JSA was nowhere near as good as Vol 1, and when Ross joined the creative aspect of the book it got much worse.


Yeah, this basically. Johns certainly played a part. JSA peaked before the end of the last volume. The run up to Infinite Crisis made that book less readable- maybe Johns attentions were elsewhere.
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Postby ReturnoftheMack » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:18 pm

Ross' covers increased sales of JSA.

I don't like him much, but this argument doesn't make sense.
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:19 pm

ReturnoftheMack wrote:Ross' covers increased sales of JSA.

I don't like him much, but this argument doesn't make sense.


The beautiful covers were nullified by what he coplotted inside.
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby mrorangesoda » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:31 pm

Magog, guys. Magog.
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby bkthomson » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:33 pm

mrorangesoda wrote:Magog, guys. Magog.

Yeah, if he would have been kept as a villain he would have been fine.
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby e_galston » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:05 am

bkthomson wrote:Yeah, if he would have been kept as a villain he would have been fine.


but its Johns' he can't just leave a villain a villain... ie Sinestro..
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby mrorangesoda » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:31 am

bkthomson wrote:Yeah, if he would have been kept as a villain he would have been fine.


He's a symbolic statement character. He doesn't even really work as a villain.
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Re: Nacireman, Alex Ross, The Professor, and Mary Ann

Postby dairydead » Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:47 am

The only time I've ever read JSA was that run, and i loved it. It did something right.
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