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Explain to Me.....Gail Simone's Batgirl

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Zechs

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Postby Zechs » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:22 pm

Eli Katz wrote:Why does she have to make a sandwich?

:smt102
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Eli Katz

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Postby Eli Katz » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:26 pm

Zechs wrote: :smt102

Was she being distracted or something, so that she couldn't jump into action as quickly?
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Zechs

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Postby Zechs » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:31 pm

Eli Katz wrote:Was she being distracted or something, so that she couldn't jump into action as quickly?


Nope. The only context of the page is that.
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GLX

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Postby GLX » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:31 pm

Eli Katz wrote:Why does she have to make a sandwich?


Because the villain said so. :P
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GLX

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Postby GLX » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:32 pm

My memory of the first hardcover is a bit hazy, but aren't all of the villains from then to now mostly victims of some traumatic event?
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Tintin Quarantino

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Postby Tintin Quarantino » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:35 pm

Eli Katz wrote:Was she being distracted or something, so that she couldn't jump into action as quickly?


Would that...really be better? "Oh noes, the old 'go make me a sandwich trick', I'll never save that character who existed for the sole purpose of being killed in time now!"
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Eli Katz

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Postby Eli Katz » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:56 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:
Would that...really be better? "Oh noes, the old 'go make me a sandwich trick', I'll never save that character who existed for the sole purpose of being killed in time now!"

:lol:

I guess not. I was trying to find some kind of logic to the scene. I guess, then, it was meant as a chauvinistic attack on Batgirl. Terrorize her first and then force her to cook.

How do the editors allow this crap to get into print?
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Tintin Quarantino

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Postby Tintin Quarantino » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:02 pm

Eli Katz wrote: :lol:

I guess not. I was trying to find some kind of logic to the scene. I guess, then, it was meant as a chauvinistic attack on Batgirl. Terrorize her first and then force her to cook.

How do the editors allow this crap to get into print?


Imagine being the artist, and you get whatever passes for a script or outline for that issue. It's the big, dramatic first contact between Joker and Batgirl since she regained the use of her legs. And you're drawing Batgirl making a sandwich.
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Zechs

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Postby Zechs » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:04 pm

GLX wrote:My memory of the first hardcover is a bit hazy, but aren't all of the villains from then to now mostly victims of some traumatic event?


Yes, and they're all characteristics of Barbara's own traumatic event.


Eli Katz wrote: :lol:

I guess not. I was trying to find some kind of logic to the scene. I guess, then, it was meant as a chauvinistic attack on Batgirl. Terrorize her first and then force her to cook.

How do the editors allow this crap to get into print?


The same reason somehow this gets put within it's pages.


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Victorian Squid wrote:
Imagine being the artist, and you get whatever passes for a script or outline for that issue. It's the big, dramatic first contact between Joker and Batgirl since she regained the use of her legs. And you're drawing Batgirl making a sandwich.


The event is made even more superfluous now. What was the point of the event? Nothing happened save everyone in their own respective books got owned by the Joker. The great big moment this book was building too a rematch with the man who paralyzed her.. floundered horribly.
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Eli Katz

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Postby Eli Katz » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:28 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:
Imagine being the artist, and you get whatever passes for a script or outline for that issue. It's the big, dramatic first contact between Joker and Batgirl since she regained the use of her legs. And you're drawing Batgirl making a sandwich.

I'm sure that Brian Bolland was upset that he didn't have the opportunity to illustrate that issue.
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BubbaKanoosh

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Postby BubbaKanoosh » Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:53 pm

Batgirl os a stupid character to begin with, be it barb, Cass, or Steph.
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alaska1125

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Postby alaska1125 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:08 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:Batgirl os a stupid character to begin with, be it barb, Cass, or Steph.


Why?
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David Bird

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Postby David Bird » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:12 pm

Explain it? In an effort to, once again, reboot the DCU, editors decided to revert to the Silver Age Batgirl. To soften a predictable backlash from Oracle fans, they gave the job to the writer most associated with the character. I tried the first trade and the #0 issue. It was pretty terrible. I'm not surprised they tried to fire her. Given all the other changes they've made it would have worked better if they'd just forgotten about Oracle and the Joker crippling her altogether and rebooted the Gordon version of the character from scratch. A Batgirl: Year One remake.
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Postby IvCNuB4 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:47 am

Eli Katz wrote:Was she being distracted or something, so that she couldn't jump into action as quickly?


Zechs wrote:Nope. The only context of the page is that.


That whole sequence was about psychologically manipulating her and delaying her until his hit squad got there to kill her.
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Zechs

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Postby Zechs » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:07 am

IvCNuB4 wrote:


That whole sequence was about Joker psychologically manipulating her and delaying her until his hit squad got there to kill her.

Um nope. Nope. Nope.

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