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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby misac » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:18 am

Yeah, I figured Fearless Defenders would be cancelled quickly. :-(
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:24 am

Keb wrote:How is that Captain Marvel book?

They DO have great female characters.


It's pretty good, kind of a time travel type of story.
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:24 am

misac wrote:Yeah, I figured Fearless Defenders would be cancelled quickly. :-(



Don't say that!!! :x
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby GiveWarAChance » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:25 am

misac wrote:Yeah, I figured Fearless Defenders would be cancelled quickly. :-(

It had the highest debut of the four Marvel titles starring female characters. We won't really know until next month what's going on with Fearless Defenders. I'm hoping for a small drop.
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby misac » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:34 am

Just being realistic. I really liked it too!
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby GiveWarAChance » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:11 pm

Spider-Woman - Here's what you get with a superstar creative team.
#1 - 47,162 - Debuts at #45
#2 - 37,233
#3 - 32,288
#4 - 29,755
#5 - 27,716
#6 - 26,134
#7 - 25,435 - Ends at #84. Lost 46.06% of Audience. Never officially cancelled.

She-Hulks - The ongoing series that was cut to a miniseries before one issue came out.
#1 - 18,616 - Debuts at #97
#2 - 14,673
#3 - 12,926
#4 - 12,226 - Ends at #141. Lost 34.32% of audience.

Black Panther
#1 - 46,691 - Debuts at #30, same as Fearless Defenders. It pays to keep Black Panthers identity a secret.
#2 - 33,750
#3 - 33,353
#4 - 30,984
#5 - 29,751
#6 - 29,707
#7 - 27,590
#8 - 23,001 - Say goodbye to variant covers. Say hello to 16.63% drop.
#9 - 20,334
#10 - 19,138
#11 - 17,989
#12 - 17,881 - Ends at #106
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby Zechs » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:17 pm

chap22 wrote:while i was a big fan of Mayday and the MC2 universe, i cannot agree with the bolded statement. i just can't.

Claremont wriote a pretty good Ms. Marvel series in the 70s, the original Jessica Drew Spider-Woman was all kinds of weird fun, and i flat-out LOVED Slott's She-Hulk.


Why didn't you bold the last half? :P The only competition for Mayday for that top spot is Bryne's She-Hulk. YOU KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE CHAPPY!!!
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby Zechs » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:26 pm

sdsichero wrote:So who are your guys' (or girls' if they exist here) favorite female characters from the big two?

Not those big two.



DC

Cassandra Cain
Stephanie Brown
Lady Shiva
Renee Montoya
Talia Al Ghul
Harley Quinn
Barbara Gordon
Cheshire (the animated versions)
Jade
Soranik Natu
Traci 13
Livewire
Miss Martian
Mercy Graves

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May Parker/Spider-Girl
Songbird
X-23
Blink
Rogue
Troll
Shriek
Hazmat
Hela
Domino
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby chap22 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:27 pm

Zechs wrote:
Why didn't you bold the last half? :P The only competition for Mayday for that top spot is Bryne's She-Hulk. YOU KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE CHAPPY!!!

but it's not true. :smt017 i named 3 books better than Byrne's She-Hulk.
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby Jack Burton » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:34 pm

Marvel
Invisble Woman (She'my favorite heroine period.) Btw anyone know when the hell she got her doctrate? She was introduced to aliens as Dr. Susan Storm Richards? Seeing I've read damn near every FF comic that sure threw me for a loop.

She-Hulk
Black Widow
Wasp
Mary Jane(ok not a superhero but she's awesome)

DC
Wonder Woman
Black Canary
Oracle/Batgirl
Donna Troy
Stargirl(from right in the sweet spot of JSA where she was dating Billy Baston)

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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby Herald » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:24 pm

sdsichero wrote:So who are your guys' (or girls' if they exist here) favorite female characters from the big two?

Not those big two.


DC (all pre-DCnU, unless noted):

Dr. Light :-D
Batgirl (Cass Cain)
Wonder Girl (Cassie Sandsmark, pre-2003)
Secret
Kalista
Raven (pre-2003)
Starfire (pre-2003)
Mirage
XS
Shikari
Power Girl
Jade (pre-2003)
Owlwoman
Tsunami
Amethyst
Strange Visitor
Halo, Katana, and Looker (pre-2006)
Phantom Lady (Dee Tyler)
Vixen
Zatanna
Fire
Ice
Maya
Chimera
Maxima (I really like the idea of a Yandere as one of the good guys!)
Celsius
Lodestone (pre-Morrison)
Oracle
Amanda Waller

Marvel:

Psylocke
Storm (Sorry, no mohawks need apply! :smt102)
Emma Frost
She-Hulk
Photon (Monica Rambeau, Dr. Light's Alternate Company Equivalent!)

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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby GiveWarAChance » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:09 pm

Some recent Marvel miniseries:

Patsy Walker: Hellcat
#1 - 19,679 - Debuts at #118
#2 - 12,807
#3 - 12,213
#4 - 8,626
#5 - 7,936 - Ends at #186. Lost 59.67% of audience.

Black Widow: Deadly Origin
#1 - 29,338 - Debuts at #64
#2 - 20,925
#3 - 16,644
#4 - 15,724 - Ends at #102. Lost 46.40% of audience.
You think this would have given Marvel a good indication of how the regular series was going to sell.

White Tiger
#1 - 24,661 - Debuts at #110
#2 - 19,040
#3 - 15,985
#4 - 14,552 - Ends at #130. Lost 40.99% of audience.

Shanna: Survival of thee Fittest
#1 - 25,334 - Debuts at #103
#2 - 17,988
#3 - 14,636
#4 - 12,961 - Ends at #167. Lost 48.83% of audience.

Spider-Island: Spider-Girl
#1 - 18,394 - Debuts at #128
#2 - 15,311
#3 - 14,248 - Ends at #158. Lost 22.53% of audience.
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby GLX » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:14 pm

Keb wrote:How is that Captain Marvel book?



I read the first trade and thought it was okay. Nothing really compelling about it.
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby GLX » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:16 pm

chap22 wrote:it ain't that good. i dropped it after 2 issues. i couldn't figure out why the hell the book existed or exactly what the hell DeConnick was trying to say with it.


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There were women in the military/space program that got fucked over. Also, Carol can do good all by herself.
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Re: The terrible sales of Marvel's female characters.

Postby Keb » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:17 pm

Maybe Frank Cho should draw ALL solo Marvel women books?

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