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by LoganRSA » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:28 am

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:

Yes, I'm just curious if we will get a tricky winterfolk doublespeak explanation that using it in that context has nothing to do with jewish people, or if the rationale is that if you call a tree a racial slur in the forest and there are no jews around to hear it, it doesn't make a sound.

by GOSD » Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:24 am

by guitarsmashley » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:07 am

GOSD wrote:Time to throw you down the well, yoni.

by S.F. Jude Terror » Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:30 am

by The Beast » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:40 pm

GHERU wrote:I bolded an important word here
Yea, I'll tell your mama jokes to my friends
I'll tell Jew jokes to my Heberw School classmates
My close non-Jewish friends can tell them to me

You used the word "Jew" as an insult (unless you like socialists, and even then its still a generalization)
yoni is not your friend
using "Jew" as an insult is still an insult, you are using yoni and my religion to put down other people, equating the religion with bad connotations.

it is an art form, and your art is on par with that of a7th grade lunch room

by Chesscub » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:41 pm

by GOSD » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:19 pm

by BarrySagittarius » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:56 pm

by S.F. Jude Terror » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:28 pm

GOSD wrote:Nt, you need to relax...

by S.F. Jude Terror » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:13 pm

Ntikrst wrote:
LMFAO, you sound like a 14 year old girl in junior high, who runs around assessing everyone's maturity levels.

When, exactly, did I use Jew as an insult against yoni? All I did was challenge him on why tasteless humor based on cultural stereotypes is such a big deal that he brings it up on the internet. I experience negative feedback for my religious beliefs and philosophical outlook by the same posters, who are now offended by me advocating tasteless humor about cultural stereotypes, so why the double standard? Oh I get it, Judaism is legit but Ancient Aliens aren't. Progressive Socialism that empowers the bureaucrat at the expense of the individual is legit but Libertarianism that empowers the individual and limits the bureaucrat isn't. It's easy to dish out but nobody can take it anymore.

Gotcha.

I can't stop people from ridiculing me for my Winterfolk philosophy and every time Jude or someone else does, it's just as "racist" as me using Jew as a verb, right? Except I didn't actually use Jew as a verb here, I only rationalized that the use of Jew as a verb and other cultural stereotypical humor isn't truly racist because it doesn't necessarily advocate hatred or intolerance. Just because I might use Jew as a verb in a tasteless joke doesn't mean I would ever verbally assault a Jewish person or tolerate such abuse to happen in my presence, unlike the rest of the people here who make repeated insults to my intelligence and my sanity for my beliefs. Now are they just having fun with tasteless humor, or because the tasteless humor is aimed directly at me and the tasteless humor is intended to serve as a rallying call to others in order to advocate intolerance and or hatred for me, does that context make their tasteless humor, "racist"?

Aye, there's the rub, it always boils down to context. For me to admit that I use cultural stereotypical humor in selective company isn't racist any more than it is when your good friends bust your ballz about being Jewish, or you bust theirs for not being part of the tribe, however, every time someone here labels me as sub standard for my Winterfolk philosophy, they are doing so in a mean spirit to advocate intolerance and hatred of me. That is, in fact, truly "racist".

Now here's the big difference between me and all the rest; I don't really care because sticks and stones are the only things I have to worry about. Names don't hurt me because I know my detractors are ignorant hypocrites who have abandoned common sense for the conventional wisdom of Groupthink. I wouldn't dream of giving them the satisfaction of knowing that they possibly hurt my feelings; that would empower them. I certainly wouldn't criminalize their behavior in order to rationalize increased censorship as a pre emptive measure so I wouldn't have to confront my fears of being ostracized and ridiculed by people that don't like me.

I have plenty of courage to face any and all challenges in life and even if I can't, I'll fake it till I make it.

by guitarsmashley » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:17 pm

GOSD wrote:Nt, you need to relax...

by guitarsmashley » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:24 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
Ntkrist, here's the thing. I understand your libertarian views dictate that you should be able to say whatever you want because words do not infringe on people's rights. I'd even agree with that in theory.

The thing is, we don't live in a libertarian utopia. We live a civilization where we share space with each other. The same is true of this forum. It is a small community of people who are mostly friendly to each other.

It's not polite to say that you believe "Jew" is a word that should be used to mean "ripped off" or "cheap." You may feel that someone shouldn't allow themselves to be insulted by that, or that they are silly for being insulted like that, but the end result is that you're the one no one wants to hang out because you're "that guy," the guy that's saying shit that's offensive just to prove a point. Maybe you prove your point, you know, to yourself and the two people that already agree with you (Food Eater Lad and Thunderstorm). To everyone else, you've just pissed them off and they're not listening to your message.

I know because I've been that guy.

So take this friendly advice: I enjoy your "thought-provoking conversation" about stuff like winterfolk and summerfolk, or aliens, or libertarian philospohy.

Stick to that, and avoid racial slurs, even if you think you're being intellectual about it. It's just not the kind of thing you can have a polite conversation about. You can blame whoever you want, but it is what it is.

I'd prefer to see you stick around here. People make some concessions to be part of a group. This is the time to make that concession. Just walk away from this argument, change the topic or something, and try to think, "is there really any reason I should say this other than to shock people?" If the answer is no, maybe pick your battles and save it for another time.

-Your Friend, Jude Terror

by S.F. Jude Terror » Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:28 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:

Who the fuck are you?

by Garofani Spruzzo » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:04 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
I can be honest once in a while! It's hard to be Jude Terror 24/7!

by guitarsmashley » Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:06 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:
Dammit, if there's one thing we've learned this week, it's that a little earnestness is murder on a thread!

We've been Jude'd!