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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:01 pm

chap22 wrote:Mark Waid:

A & D) -- speaking in terms of pushing the medium, is out in front of the digital movement with his Thrillbent stuff.
B) has handled numerous creators as an EiC before, at BOOM for 3 years.
C) has written everything from Archie to Kingdom Come (one of the highest-selling comics of all time), including high-selling and award-winning runs on Capt. America, FF, Flash, JLA, Daredevil, 52, etc.
D) going to BOOM was quite a risk. Thrillbent is quite a risk

plus the EiC experience factor. any other citeria you want to make up that practically no one currently in comics EXCEPT Waid can meet?


E) Dated Devin Grayson :lol:

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:03 pm

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E) Dated Devin Grayson :lol:


that actually falls under B) "creator-friendly". it also falls under E) "poor life choices". :wink:
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:04 pm

Punchy wrote:
Marvel didn't make those guys quit, they are still on good terms.


I'm surprised he forgot to mention Rucka, if he's trying to make an argument about Marvel alienating creatives

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Herald » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:04 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:
E) Dated Devin Grayson :lol:


So you're saying Waid deserves hazard pay, too... :groucho:

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:14 pm

Herald wrote:
So you're saying Waid deserves hazard pay, too... :groucho:


Yes :roll:

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby The Bass » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:22 pm

With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Jubilee » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:29 pm

Nothing wrong with not liking superheroes!

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Herald » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:30 pm

Johnny Smith wrote:
Yes :roll:

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So you didn't get the joke.
That's all you had to say.

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Punchy » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:37 pm

Mark Waid is currently undergoing a critical renaissance as writer of Daredevil and Hulk, he'd be mad to go back to DC right now, he's now 'cool' for the first time in forever.

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Johnny Smith » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:38 pm

The Bass wrote:With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.


You have a vivid imagination. Current DC editorial micromanages every step of the process. They don't usually give the writers/artists enough autonomy to clash with each other.

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Punchy » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:39 pm

Jubilee wrote:Nothing wrong with not liking superheroes!


Yeah, some of the best superhero comics have been written by writers who claim to hate them!

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby Arion » Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:56 pm

The Bass wrote:With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.


I only read Diggle's first Daredevil arc. I wasn't too impressed with it, but he's great writing other stuff, like Snapshot.

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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:04 pm

The Bass wrote:With Diggle, I can see what happened was he clashed with Tony Daniel, over what he wanted/what Daniel wanted to draw, and editorial sided with Daniel. Frankly, I never understood him on Action in the first place, given that he's said he hates superheros, and wrote the worst Daredevil in living memory.

he also wrote possibly the best Adam Strange in living memory, so...
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby chap22 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:09 pm

Punchy wrote:Mark Waid is currently undergoing a critical renaissance as writer of Daredevil and Hulk, he'd be mad to go back to DC right now, he's now 'cool' for the first time in forever.

your definition of "forever" is pretty narrow.
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Re: DC Shocker: Andy Diggle Off Action Comics

Postby HNutz » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:11 pm

chap22 wrote:he also wrote possibly the best Adam Strange in living memory, so...


Can't forget about his Green Arrow: Year One and The Losers.

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