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by chap22 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:11 am

Jubilee wrote:
That's not cool. That's basic storytelling 101. I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before. Who gives a shit about minor continuity like this? Like honestly. Things change in comics constantly, getting hung up over petty details like how time travel should actually change things is silly.

The reason Age of Ultron is crap is because it's cliched, slow and hasn't done a good job of portraying any sense of gravitas to the current situation. Not because it messes with how Hawkeye was portrayed 30 years ago or what it means in contrast to other time travel stories.

The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before. Look at how Bucky has been used in the 60's and now. Look at Clareont's X-men run. Just let it go Amobeas!

NOT A WORD.

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by chap22 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:11 am

Jubilee wrote:
That's not cool. That's basic storytelling 101. I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before. Who gives a shit about minor continuity like this? Like honestly. Things change in comics constantly, getting hung up over petty details like how time travel should actually change things is silly.

The reason Age of Ultron is crap is because it's cliched, slow and hasn't done a good job of portraying any sense of gravitas to the current situation. Not because it messes with how Hawkeye was portrayed 30 years ago or what it means in contrast to other time travel stories.

The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before. Look at how Bucky has been used in the 60's and now. Look at Clareont's X-men run. Just let it go Amobeas!

NOT A WORD.

rdrsfn82 wrote:Chap is right.

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DMM wrote:Chap knows what he's talking about.

MoneyMelon wrote:chap is right about pretty much everything

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by Amoebas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:12 am

Punchy wrote:It's ridiculous to try and apply rules or logic to time-travel.

Read Marvel Two-In-One #50. It literally is the exact plot that AU is heading to.

Ben has a cure in the present that will only work on his younger self - so what if Ben gives it to his younger self?
Ultron has taken over the planet and can't be stopped - but what if Pym was stopped before he accidently created Ultron?

Ben goes back in time and change things to make a new reality in his present.
Sue & Wolverine go back in time and change things to make a new reality in their present.

Ben returns home and finds nothing has changed and he created an alternate timeline.
Sue & Wolverine return home and find everything has changed and the world is okey-dokey again.

In a world where sometimes things go up, they should follow the rule (and logic) that they will also come down.

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by Amoebas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:12 am

Punchy wrote:It's ridiculous to try and apply rules or logic to time-travel.

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by IvCNuB4 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:19 am

Welcome to The Outhouse Good Friday 2013 Battle Royale :lol:

Round 1: Amoebas vs Punchy

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by IvCNuB4 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:19 am

Welcome to The Outhouse Good Friday 2013 Battle Royale :lol:

Round 1: Amoebas vs Punchy

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by 3MJ » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:19 am

Irregardless of whether it's a word or not Chap I've used it now get over it. :smt013

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by 3MJ » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:19 am

Irregardless of whether it's a word or not Chap I've used it now get over it. :smt013

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by Juan Cena » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:23 am

Jubilee wrote:
That's not cool. That's basic storytelling 101. I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before. Who gives a shit about minor continuity like this? Like honestly. Things change in comics constantly, getting hung up over petty details like how time travel should actually change things is silly.

The reason Age of Ultron is crap is because it's cliched, slow and hasn't done a good job of portraying any sense of gravitas to the current situation. Not because it messes with how Hawkeye was portrayed 30 years ago or what it means in contrast to other time travel stories.

The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before. Look at how Bucky has been used in the 60's and now. Look at Clareont's X-men run. Just let it go Amobeas!

Amoebas likes things unchanging and set in stone. Haven't you noticed that?

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by Juan Cena » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:23 am

Jubilee wrote:
That's not cool. That's basic storytelling 101. I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before. Who gives a shit about minor continuity like this? Like honestly. Things change in comics constantly, getting hung up over petty details like how time travel should actually change things is silly.

The reason Age of Ultron is crap is because it's cliched, slow and hasn't done a good job of portraying any sense of gravitas to the current situation. Not because it messes with how Hawkeye was portrayed 30 years ago or what it means in contrast to other time travel stories.

The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before. Look at how Bucky has been used in the 60's and now. Look at Clareont's X-men run. Just let it go Amobeas!

Amoebas likes things unchanging and set in stone. Haven't you noticed that?

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by Juan Cena » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:26 am

You could argue that the Marvel rules on Time Travel got altered with Age of Apocalypse or House of M or any of the other reality changing dramas.

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by Juan Cena » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:26 am

You could argue that the Marvel rules on Time Travel got altered with Age of Apocalypse or House of M or any of the other reality changing dramas.

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Strict31 wrote:I'm not sure that combining the nigh-uncontrollable power of LOLtron with the Nacireman is a good idea. Some years from now, when mankind is on the verge of extinction, we'll be able to look back and remember this moment, and say, "DANG."

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by Amoebas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:26 am

Jubilee wrote:I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before.

If the story is so important - then don't use existing characters that have histories that need to be contradicted in order for the story to work.

Jubilee wrote:Age of Ultron is crap

Smartest thing you've ever typed - like, ever. :-D

Jubilee wrote:The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before.

I just posted about one of the best stories in Marvel's history (M2in1 #50) (that literally played with what had come before). So I think I'm on solid ground.

Jubilee wrote:Just let it go Amobeas!

Nah - not letting it go, because I was raised on Marvel Comics where they didn't let it go.

And you still can't take the time to learn how to spell my name For shame Jbuleei, For shame! :smt011

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by Amoebas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:26 am

Jubilee wrote:I think the general idea is that you write the best story you can, irregardless of what has come before.

If the story is so important - then don't use existing characters that have histories that need to be contradicted in order for the story to work.

Jubilee wrote:Age of Ultron is crap

Smartest thing you've ever typed - like, ever. :-D

Jubilee wrote:The best stories in Marvel's history have paid fast and loose with what has come before.

I just posted about one of the best stories in Marvel's history (M2in1 #50) (that literally played with what had come before). So I think I'm on solid ground.

Jubilee wrote:Just let it go Amobeas!

Nah - not letting it go, because I was raised on Marvel Comics where they didn't let it go.

And you still can't take the time to learn how to spell my name For shame Jbuleei, For shame! :smt011

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by Amoebas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:29 am

Jubilee wrote:Irregardless of whether it's a word or not Chap I've used it now get over it.

"Irregardless" is not a word either. :-D

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by Amoebas » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:29 am

Jubilee wrote:Irregardless of whether it's a word or not Chap I've used it now get over it.

"Irregardless" is not a word either. :-D

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by IvCNuB4 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:57 am

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by IvCNuB4 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:57 am

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by 3MJ » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:59 am

Iregaurdless of your attempts to get me into petty disputes Amoebas I will never accept that characters are more important than story. I think it's important these characters get a soft update every decade or so to fit them into the wider world.

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by 3MJ » Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:59 am

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by chap22 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:19 pm

Jubilee wrote:Irregardless of whether it's a word or not Chap I've used it now get over it.

NOT A WORD.

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by chap22 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:19 pm

Jubilee wrote:Irregardless of whether it's a word or not Chap I've used it now get over it.

NOT A WORD.

rdrsfn82 wrote:Chap is right.

Chris wrote:chap is right.

john lewis wrote:I got nothing but respect for [Chap]

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by Windom URL » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:29 pm

By most accepted definitions of the word "word", of course it's a word!

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by Windom URL » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:29 pm

By most accepted definitions of the word "word", of course it's a word!

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by Stephen Day » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:33 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:By most accepted definitions of the word "word", of course it's a word!

Irregardless of what you say here, it's Chap vs Twigg -- I say Chap is right.

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by Stephen Day » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:33 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:By most accepted definitions of the word "word", of course it's a word!

Irregardless of what you say here, it's Chap vs Twigg -- I say Chap is right.

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by Keb » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:35 pm

@ Twigg's diction trolling

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by Keb » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:35 pm

@ Twigg's diction trolling

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by Stephen Day » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:39 pm

Keb wrote::lol: @ Twigg's diction trolling

He does have talent doesn't he. :lol:

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by Stephen Day » Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:39 pm