draco x wrote:-I see what you're saying and all but the reason why I brought those points up is not to highlight Wolverine's healing factor but to point out that Wolverine has one advantage that Cyclops will never have: endurance. Wolverine may not have finesse or refinement in his combat skills but the little guy can take a lot of punishment and that is a major advantage in a fight. An opponent who may have little finesse or technique but high endurance can beat an opponent who has lots of finesse or technique but low endurance-and we all know Scott can't take as much physical punishment as Logan can.
If you were to put Scott and Logan in a UFC match without their powers, it would basically go like this: Scott would get some hits in and out maneuvre Wolverine for awhile but Logan won't go down easily unless Scott finds a way to put Wolverine in a submission hold and choke him out-which again will be hard to do. After awhile, Scott-if he's unable to take Logan out by then-will get tired while Logan won't. And at this point Scott is fucked as Logan is then going to deliver the knockout blow or put Scott in a chokehold and force him to tap out. This is not to knock Scott as a fighter but this is how I could honestly see a fight with him and Logan going without their powers involved.
As ridiculous as this thread has become, the bolded portion of your statement pretty much negates the rest of your argument. If Scott and Wolverine were in a UFC style match or hell, any type of fight, without
their powers, Wolverine loses his advantage in the endurance category. The only reason that Wolverine ever had that advantage in the first place is because of his healing factor. So you have a person like Scott who has trained to fight for years without
a healing factor against a guy like Wolverine who has relied on his healing factor to provide him the extra endurance that he has and who now is suddenly without it.