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No, it's just I can look at a big picture situation better. |
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I'm glad to see that, although we are not exactly on the same page the debate has been quite interesting. About Meltzer, I don't know. Let's asume I am a novelist (which I'm not) and I'm also a comic book writer (which I am if you take into account my indy stuff). I would hate to make a decision, if I could I would keep writing novels and comics. And I honestly don't think one thing invalidates the other. |
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Except that you have to take time away from one to do the other. Which is why someone like Gaiman doesn't write many comics anymore. It took forever for him to commit to writing a new Sandman story, and I'm sure DC had to fork out a lot of money for that. (Because that was the reason he said he hasn't been writing more Sandman stories before this). |
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It brought back too many readers for anything else to matter, it's one of the few things Didio did correctly. Hab |
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It was still a mercenary move with only a short-term gain. Once Meltzer left, and DC slowly removed Supes, Bruce, Diana, Hal, etc, from the book, sales started dropping. Not as bad as Legion, mind you. But enough to keep it out of the top 20. |
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I think you drastically underestimate the number of readers that not only picked up a JL book, but, started picking up comics either again or for the first time based on the PR campaign this book received. That's ultimately all that matters. Hab |
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But how much of it was short-term sales, as opposed to long-term growth? What good is bringing in a writer for a limited run if sales go back down to the pre-run levels (or lower) when he leaves? |
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Because long term growth is the ultimate the goal of the industry, the bulk of what we see in comics is done to serve it, and in Meltzer's case it worked extremely well. If you achieve that everything else is irrelevant. Hab |
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Is all that growth due to Meltzer, or to writers like Snyder or Bendis or Johns who have stayed on books long-term and became architects of what went on in Marvel and DC? As for Justice League... 15 JLA 125 $2.50 (last JLA issue) DC 74,313 2 Justice League of America 12 (Meltzier's last issue) $3.50 DC 131,412 A year later 12 Justice League of America 24 $2.99 DC 81,408 two years later 29 Justice League of America 36 $2.99 DC 57,488 So much for long term growth... |
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No, it was for Meltzer, the press was for a Meltzer book. You overfocusing on JL sales is a straw man when we were discussing gaining or in some cases regaining long term buyers in total. So, you're way off base here. Hab |
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Do you have any hard numbers on this? Did Meltzer cause a long-term sales bump in Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, or in any of the books that weren't Identity Crisis crossovers? |
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What Gaimen explained is that he gets certain percentage when he sells his novels, and in DC that percentage is a whole lot less. I don't see that as asking more money, only what is fair. I'd love to have him writing more comics, but we can always read his novels and enjoy them just as much, eh? |
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