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Amoebas

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Postby Amoebas » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:07 pm

e_galston wrote:
except no one sent Logan to the past, he did that himself... granted its not like you'd know that since you more than likely didn't read the past issue since it doesn't have a DC logo on it...

Actually he didn't do it himself. He admitted he didn't know how to use the platform, so anyone who helped him DID send him.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:40 pm

well that was the best issue of the series so far. And it was still pretty bad. But at least the storytelling was better.
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:06 am

:lol:
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:57 am

We are now in the second stage of Age Of Ultron, and already the pace has increased. This issue is split into two timelines, we see Wolverine and Sue Storm in the past, and also Nick Fury, Captain America and a bunch of other Avengers in the future. The future stuff is fairly straightforward, the Avengers head to a roboticized New York, get attacked by some Ultron drones, and get killed (Captain America gets fucking decapitated!). The stuff in the past is a lot more interesting, as Wolverine and Sue are there to either stop Hank Pym from creating Ultron… or kill him.

In the end, Wolverine kills him, which was a really great moment. So often time-travel stories tease stuff like this happening, but chicken out at the last minute. But Age Of Ultron goes through with it, which is kind of awesome. I can’t wait to see what kind of state the present is in now that Hank is dead, and how all of this is going to end. At this point, anything can happen, and I really value unpredictability in superhero comics, it’s a rare commodity. I think it’s actually very interesting how this event has not really been about Ultron, he hasn’t even appeared yet and we are more than half-way done. How crazy would it be if he doesn’t appear in any of the 10 issues? Just the idea and threat of Ultron is a better villain than most!

I thought it was good how Carlos Pacheco and Brandon Peterson handled both timelines in this issue and how some pages featured work from both of them, a simple technique but effective. Also cool was how Hank Pym from the past’s word balloons looked different from Wolverine’s, they were grey and not as round, like actual balloons from the Silver Age. It’s the little things like that which show you how great and versatile comics can be, only comics could convey different time-periods like that.
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alaska1125

dINGO

Postby alaska1125 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:49 am

Y'know, I'm old enough to remember when most readers didn't root, much less actively profess love, for super-villains like Cyclops.
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:57 am

alaska1125 wrote:Y'know, I'm old enough to remember when most readers didn't root, much less actively profess love, for super-villains like Cyclops.


Cyclops is:

a) Not a villain
b) Not in Age Of Ultron because he died off-panel

So what are you talking about?
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alaska1125

dINGO

Postby alaska1125 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:59 am

Punchy wrote:
Cyclops is:

a) Not a villain
b) Not in Age Of Ultron because he died off-panel

So what are you talking about?


a) After AvX, yeah, he is.
b) Have you been reading the posts in this thread?
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Postby IvCNuB4 » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:03 am

e_galston wrote:except no one sent Logan to the past, he did that himself... granted its not like you'd know that since you more than likely didn't read the past issue since it doesn't have a DC logo on it...

Amoebas wrote:Actually he didn't do it himself. He admitted he didn't know how to use the platform, so anyone who helped him DID send him.



I admire your fortitude, Amobas. Because Ms Thatcher does not like to be corrected :lol:
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:16 am

Punchy wrote:We are now in the second stage of Age Of Ultron, and already the pace has increased. This issue is split into two timelines, we see Wolverine and Sue Storm in the past, and also Nick Fury, Captain America and a bunch of other Avengers in the future. The future stuff is fairly straightforward, the Avengers head to a roboticized New York, get attacked by some Ultron drones, and get killed (Captain America gets fucking decapitated!). The stuff in the past is a lot more interesting, as Wolverine and Sue are there to either stop Hank Pym from creating Ultron… or kill him.

In the end, Wolverine kills him, which was a really great moment. So often time-travel stories tease stuff like this happening, but chicken out at the last minute. But Age Of Ultron goes through with it, which is kind of awesome. I can’t wait to see what kind of state the present is in now that Hank is dead, and how all of this is going to end. At this point, anything can happen, and I really value unpredictability in superhero comics, it’s a rare commodity. I think it’s actually very interesting how this event has not really been about Ultron, he hasn’t even appeared yet and we are more than half-way done. How crazy would it be if he doesn’t appear in any of the 10 issues? Just the idea and threat of Ultron is a better villain than most!

I thought it was good how Carlos Pacheco and Brandon Peterson handled both timelines in this issue and how some pages featured work from both of them, a simple technique but effective. Also cool was how Hank Pym from the past’s word balloons looked different from Wolverine’s, they were grey and not as round, like actual balloons from the Silver Age. It’s the little things like that which show you how great and versatile comics can be, only comics could convey different time-periods like that.


I understand you're trying to put together respectable reviews for the sake of the site. I wont fault you for that this time. But seriously? A GREAT MOMENT???? This reads more like a CBR hand job review then anything else. The moment was coming from the second this issue was solicited. It was so telegraphed Stevie Wonder would've seen it. It would be one thing for you be contrarian like Jude Terror but that's not your review M.O. This comic is not unpredictable at all. If anything this book is ho hum and very predictable with every thing happening right on time...well right no time for a very slow rolling story. I'm sorry but your assessment of this story and especially this issue just feels really wrong.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:21 am

alaska1125 wrote:
a) After AvX, yeah, he is.
b) Have you been reading the posts in this thread?


B. No he hasn't.
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:26 am

guitarsmashley wrote:
I understand you're trying to put together respectable reviews for the sake of the site. I wont fault you for that this time. But seriously? A GREAT MOMENT???? This reads more like a CBR hand job review then anything else. The moment was coming from the second this issue was solicited. It was so telegraphed Stevie Wonder would've seen it. It would be one thing for you be contrarian like Jude Terror but that's not your review M.O. This comic is not unpredictable at all. If anything this book is ho hum and very predictable with every thing happening right on time...well right no time for a very slow rolling story. I'm sorry but your assessment of this story and especially this issue just feels really wrong.


I thought it was surprising that they actually went through with killing Pym, it was a good moment to me, I expected them to chicken out.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:33 am

Punchy wrote:
I thought it was surprising that they actually went through with killing Pym, it was a good moment to me, I expected them to chicken out.


But, here's the problem. This story is full of backing out of everything that's happened here. Yes Age of Apocalypse is basically the same but the execution from the beginning of that story had a different weight to it and characters were actually changed even the idea of the tie ins to this series recognize how little it actually matters. The whole thing is just a general disappointment. We already know that Hank Pym is somehow still alive when this event ends and at this point the only major change that could come out of all of this will be the death of Wolverine like Rich speculated on months ago but with a movie coming out this summer and another coming out in the next 2 years it's going to be very short lived. That will be the only lasting effect of this series.
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:35 am

guitarsmashley wrote:
But, here's the problem. This story is full of backing out of everything that's happened here. Yes Age of Apocalypse is basically the same but the execution from the beginning of that story had a different weight to it and characters were actually changed even the idea of the tie ins to this series recognize how little it actually matters. The whole thing is just a general disappointment. We already know that Hank Pym is somehow still alive when this event ends and at this point the only major change that could come out of all of this will be the death of Wolverine like Rich speculated on months ago but with a movie coming out this summer and another coming out in the next 2 years it's going to be very short lived. That will be the only lasting effect of this series.


Unless the teaser for Avengers AI was a mis-direct.

And I take whatever Rich Johnston says with a pinch of salt. I hadn't heard about Wolverine dying at all.
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guitarsmashley

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Postby guitarsmashley » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:40 am

Punchy wrote:
Unless the teaser for Avengers AI was a mis-direct.

And I take whatever Rich Johnston says with a pinch of salt. I hadn't heard about Wolverine dying at all.


I agree with you about Rich 100% but he's been right enough times that you at least have to question it briefly.
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:56 am

alaska1125 wrote:Y'know, I'm old enough to remember when most readers didn't root, much less actively profess love, for super-villains like Cyclops.


I'm old enough to remember a time when the comics industry wasn't so creatively bankrupt that they ham-fistedly wrote a super-mega-crossover event that mischaracterized a popular hero in order to make him a villain, all the while having the heroes in the story commit worse acts but pay no consequences for them because it didn't fit the editorial mandate of the story.

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