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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby T-Roy Space Cowboy » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:29 pm

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Whichever the case, I do hope they bring back Rich as I don't like how they're trying to force Sam down our throats.


No ones forcing you to read it.

It's a good book with fantastic artwork and I enjoy the hell out of it. Rich Rider was an awesome Nova and his last series was damn good, he went out like a hero though and if he never comes back, which is highly unlikely I am cool with that. People bitch and complain about death not meaning anything in comes but in the same breath wish characters they liked would come back from the dead :smt102
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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby Grayson » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:34 pm

Punchy wrote:Sam's dad was part of some kind of black-ops secret Nova squadron.


That's what I am talking about. I was under the impression that members of the black-ops Nova squadron were referred to as Supernovas. I could be mistaken about that but prior to the Thanos Imperative during War of Kings, Garthan Saal rescued Malik Tarcel from the Shi'ar. They disappeared after War of Kings and have not been mentioned since. What better way to eventually bring Richard Rider back than to have the original Supernova start up his own Corps in the absence of the actual Nova Corps?
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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:46 pm

Punchy wrote:
Where do you stand on Red Hulk?


I hate him and everything he stands for.
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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby sdsichero » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:59 pm

Punchy wrote:That he (and the rest of the Nova Corps) are dead.

Sam says he knew about him, that he was 'a Young Avenger' or something.


Grayson wrote::smt011


:smt011 :smt011
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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby habitual » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:10 pm

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Sam's dad was part of some kind of black-ops secret Nova squadron.


Yeah, that still doesn't make that much sense in light of what happened with the Annihilation Wave.

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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby habitual » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:13 pm

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No ones forcing you to read it.

It's a good book with fantastic artwork and I enjoy the hell out of it. Rich Rider was an awesome Nova and his last series was damn good, he went out like a hero though and if he never comes back, which is highly unlikely I am cool with that. People bitch and complain about death not meaning anything in comes but in the same breath wish characters they liked would come back from the dead :smt102


If that book hadn't revitalized the entire Marvel Cosmic genre I'd agree with you, but, it did, so I don't :smt011

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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:17 pm

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If that book hadn't revitalized the entire Marvel Cosmic genre I'd agree with you, but, it did, so I don't :smt011

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Hab, your obsession with Annihilation revitalizing Marvel cosmic is bordering on Naciremanesque. :P

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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby habitual » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:18 pm

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Hab, your obsession with Annihilation revitalizing Marvel cosmic is bordering on Naciremanesque. :P


I don't start any threads about it :D

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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:42 pm

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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby fieldy snuts » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:09 pm

habitual wrote:
I don't start any threads about it :D

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Yet.

Before you know it you'll be starting threads about the neoclassic Marvel Cosmic :P

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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby Grayson » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:20 pm

Tattooed Jesus wrote:People bitch and complain about death not meaning anything in comes but in the same breath wish characters they liked would come back from the dead :smt102


Death not meaning anything in comics doesn't just apply to the fact that character who die tend to come back to life. I think that the biggest problem with death in comics right now, especially Marvel Comics, is that Marvel has went out of their way to let you know that they are going to kill a character off in every one of their events. Since 2010, in just 3 years, we have already seen the "Deaths" of:

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
***This is going to be SPOILER HEAVY!***

Adam Warlock/Magus
Ant-Man (Eric O'Grady)
Ares
Black Bolt
Brother Voodoo
Bullseye
Captain America (Bucky Barnes)
Daken
Darkhawk
D-Man
Doc Samson
Drax
Human Torch (Johnny Storm)
Madame Webb
The Mandarin
Mettle
Nightcrawler
Nova (Richard Rider)
Professor Xavier
Rhino
The Sentry
Silver Sable
Silver Samurai
Spider-Man (Peter Parker)
Star Lord
Stature
Thor
Victoria Hand
The Vision II
Vulcan


That is 30 characters in 3 years. Keep in mind that's only counting characters from the Main Marvel universe. Granted, some of them have already come back but you have to admit that's an outrageous number. Forget for a moment that the likelihood is that most of those characters will eventually come back in some capacity, how can anybody take death in comics seriously when it has become so commonplace?
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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby 3MJ » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:26 pm

Grayson wrote:
Death not meaning anything in comics doesn't just apply to the fact that character who die tend to come back to life. I think that the biggest problem with death in comics right now, especially Marvel Comics, is that Marvel has went out of their way to let you know that they are going to kill a character off in every one of their events. Since 2010, in just 3 years, we have already seen the "Deaths" of:

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
***This is going to be SPOILER HEAVY!***

Adam Warlock/Magus
Ant-Man (Eric O'Grady)
Ares
Black Bolt
Brother Voodoo
Bullseye
Captain America (Bucky Barnes)
Daken
Darkhawk
D-Man
Doc Samson
Drax
Human Torch (Johnny Storm)
Madame Webb
The Mandarin
Mettle
Nightcrawler
Nova (Richard Rider)
Professor Xavier
Rhino
The Sentry
Silver Sable
Silver Samurai
Spider-Man (Peter Parker)
Star Lord
Stature
Thor
Victoria Hand
The Vision II
Vulcan


That is 30 characters in 3 years. Keep in mind that's only counting characters from the Main Marvel universe. Granted, some of them have already come back but you have to admit that's an outrageous number. Forget for a moment that the likelihood is that most of those characters will eventually come back in some capacity, how can anybody take death in comics seriously when it has become so commonplace?


You're absolutely right of course. When Marvel are publishing 50 comics a month and on average around one of them a month kills off a character on the level of D-man or Mettle, there is just a needless amount of casualties.

RIP all those big name characters who've died in the last 40 months.

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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby Draco x » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:36 pm

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No ones forcing you to read it.

It's a good book with fantastic artwork and I enjoy the hell out of it. Rich Rider was an awesome Nova and his last series was damn good, he went out like a hero though and if he never comes back, which is highly unlikely I am cool with that. People bitch and complain about death not meaning anything in comes but in the same breath wish characters they liked would come back from the dead :smt102


You're under the impression that I would actually read anything with the new Nova?

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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby Grayson » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:51 pm

Jubilee wrote:You're absolutely right of course. When Marvel are publishing 50 comics a month and on average around one of them a month kills off a character on the level of D-man or Mettle, there is just a needless amount of casualties.

RIP all those big name characters who've died in the last 40 months.


The best way I can really describe this is think of Age of Ultron. They are literally killing characters left and right. None of these deaths have any impact at all because we know that by the end of this event time will be reset and most, if not all of the deaths will be undone. The entire Marvel Universe is basically the Age of Ultron. There are so many character deaths, that as a plot point, it has become unimportant. It doesn't matter if you are killing an A-List character or a D-List character because at the end of the day, you know that somebody is probably going to die.

draco x wrote:You're under the impression that I would actually read anything with the new Nova?


I'm pretty sure that he covered this already when he said:

Tattooed Jesus wrote:No ones forcing you to read it.
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Re: Nova #3 (The pointer on the moon Spoilers)

Postby Draco x » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:52 pm

Grayson wrote:
The best way I can really describe this is think of Age of Ultron. They are literally killing characters left and right. None of these deaths have any impact at all because we know that by the end of this event time will be reset and most, if not all of the deaths will be undone. The entire Marvel Universe is basically the Age of Ultron. There are so many character deaths, that as a plot point, it has become unimportant. It doesn't matter if you are killing an A-List character or a D-List character because at the end of the day, you know that somebody is probably going to die.



I'm pretty sure that he covered this already when he said:



You do know that was a rhetorical question, right?

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