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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:54 pm

HNutz wrote:Between Civil War, Planet Hulk, AvX, and now Age of Ultron... wouldn't it be nice to have a GOOD crossover event that doesn't center on heroes fighting heroes?


Wouldn't it be nice to let the crossovers develop from the stories in the regular books rather than having the status quo in the books changed every six months to fit the crossovers?
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Draco x

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Postby Draco x » Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:28 pm

Grayson wrote:
In Scott's defense, Madelyne was an evil clone of Jean Grey created by Mr. Sinister. Plus, at least Cyclops didn't kill any children. :P



I don't know, I feel like had the Avengers been possessed by the Phoenix Force, Cyclops and the X-Men still would have been portrayed as the villains, at least in the eyes of the characters in the Marvel Universe.


From what I understand with the Scott and Maddy thing was that Scott did go back to try and find Madelyne and Nathan after the Jean thing but they disappeared before he could get to them.
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SuperginraiX

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Postby SuperginraiX » Fri Apr 19, 2013 5:25 am

draco x wrote:
From what I understand with the Scott and Maddy thing was that Scott did go back to try and find Madelyne and Nathan after the Jean thing but they disappeared before he could get to them.

Yeah. The Simonsons did their damndest to get Cyclops out of the douchebag territory that Bob Layton had put him in. He went back to Alaska to find his wife and son and beg their forgiveness but never found her. In fact, I think he was lead to believe she was dead. And then he sort of went crazy for an issue or two. He eventually got his son back after Madelyne went even MORE crazy.


But then his kid got the techno-organic virus and Scott did the only sensible thing. He sent his only son into the future with some chick he had just met figuring that only in the future would his boy find a cure. Instead, it turns out his son pulled through without any help but not before the Askani made their very own evil clone. That left little Nathan Christopher in the future for no good reason.

But that's ok because Scott and Jean were both sent into the future in... I guess... cloned bodies so they could properly raise his kid the rest of the way. Only they didn't let the kid know who they really were or what the hell was really going on. Probably because it was mostly insane.



Dammit, Marvel.
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alaska1125

dINGO

Postby alaska1125 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:58 am

SuperginraiX wrote:Yeah. The Simonsons did their damndest to get Cyclops out of the douchebag territory that Bob Layton had put him in. He went back to Alaska to find his wife and son and beg their forgiveness but never found her. In fact, I think he was lead to believe she was dead. And then he sort of went crazy for an issue or two. He eventually got his son back after Madelyne went even MORE crazy.


But then his kid got the techno-organic virus and Scott did the only sensible thing. He sent his only son into the future with some chick he had just met figuring that only in the future would his boy find a cure. Instead, it turns out his son pulled through without any help but not before the Askani made their very own evil clone. That left little Nathan Christopher in the future for no good reason.

But that's ok because Scott and Jean were both sent into the future in... I guess... cloned bodies so they could properly raise his kid the rest of the way. Only they didn't let the kid know who they really were or what the hell was really going on. Probably because it was mostly insane.



Dammit, Marvel.

:lol: Yep, that's how I remember it too.
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sdsichero

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Postby sdsichero » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:55 am

SuperginraiX wrote:Yeah. The Simonsons did their damndest to get Cyclops out of the douchebag territory that Bob Layton had put him in. He went back to Alaska to find his wife and son and beg their forgiveness but never found her. In fact, I think he was lead to believe she was dead. And then he sort of went crazy for an issue or two. He eventually got his son back after Madelyne went even MORE crazy.


But then his kid got the techno-organic virus and Scott did the only sensible thing. He sent his only son into the future with some chick he had just met figuring that only in the future would his boy find a cure. Instead, it turns out his son pulled through without any help but not before the Askani made their very own evil clone. That left little Nathan Christopher in the future for no good reason.

But that's ok because Scott and Jean were both sent into the future in... I guess... cloned bodies so they could properly raise his kid the rest of the way. Only they didn't let the kid know who they really were or what the hell was really going on. Probably because it was mostly insane.



Dammit, Marvel.


Brought us some fantastic Gene Ha art
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bkthomson

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Postby bkthomson » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:17 am

sdsichero wrote:
Brought us some fantastic Gene Ha art

That is true.
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GHERU

Rain Partier

Postby GHERU » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:36 pm

alaska1125 wrote:Yep. I've got a lot of love for Marvel currently, but this "event" could have been contained in about four issues. And please refer to the "Should price matter?" thread...well written and spot on.

thank you
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GHERU

Rain Partier

Postby GHERU » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:41 pm

Amoebas wrote:Hank Pym has now apparently been murdered in July 1967.

So he didn't accidently create Ultron.
And so Ultron never created the Vision.
Who never married the Scarlet Witch.
Who never had kids that were taken from her.
So she never went crazy.

And therefore Bendis never had a career in comics.

Yeah. I can live with that.

but, we still get AoA, right?
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GHERU

Rain Partier

Postby GHERU » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:41 pm

PS - this sucked massive balls
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alaska1125

dINGO

Postby alaska1125 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:34 pm

GHERU wrote:thank you

No thanks necessary. It crystallized exactly what I've felt for the last few years. While there are those who say that a comic costs what it costs, the vehicle analogy cemented the fallacy in that statement. If you've been buying AoU up through the current issue, I'd consider you either wealthy or a sucker. I ditched after I was idiotically convinced that the first issue was going to be awesome. Not only wasn't it that, it was $3.99 done in about 3-5 minutes...and outside of the Spider-Man rescue, absolutely nothing happened.
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Keb

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Postby Keb » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:24 am

alaska1125 wrote:No thanks necessary. It crystallized exactly what I've felt for the last few years. While there are those who say that a comic costs what it costs, the vehicle analogy cemented the fallacy in that statement. If you've been buying AoU up through the current issue, I'd consider you either wealthy or a sucker. I ditched after I was idiotically convinced that the first issue was going to be awesome. Not only wasn't it that, it was $3.99 done in about 3-5 minutes...and outside of the Spider-Man rescue, absolutely nothing happened.

That's Bendis. It's why I dropped everything I was reading by him a long time ago.
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Tintin Quarantino

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Postby Tintin Quarantino » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:08 pm

Everyone should have learned that from Secret Invasion.

Instead you've all kept right on buying his books, probably roughly two-thirds of you hating most of them, and collectively propelled Bendis to superstardom.

At which time he blithely drops this load of donkey dung on you as a thank you.

P.S. Those X-Men books of his are more talking-talking-talking.
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:12 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:Everyone should have learned that from Secret Invasion.

Instead you've all kept right on buying his books, probably roughly two-thirds of you hating most of them, and collectively propelled Bendis to superstardom.

Proud to say I gave up on Bendis during Avengers Disassembled and that I was not part of any 'propelling' of his career. 8)
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Tintin Quarantino

Rain Partier

Postby Tintin Quarantino » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:18 pm

I like Bendis, but he's been rewarded for bad writing!

And say what you will about Disassembled, at least stuff happened!
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S.F. Jude Terror

OMCTO

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:24 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:Everyone should have learned that from Secret Invasion.

Instead you've all kept right on buying his books, probably roughly two-thirds of you hating most of them, and collectively propelled Bendis to superstardom.

At which time he blithely drops this load of donkey dung on you as a thank you.

P.S. Those X-Men books of his are more talking-talking-talking.


Claremont's X-Men was a lot of talking too. And it was the best. Bendis's X-Men is the most X-Menny X-Men since Claremont.

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