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Re: Gun Ads

Postby habitual » Fri May 03, 2013 5:30 am

Children and the English shouldn't have guns.

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Re: Gun Ads

Postby Zero » Fri May 03, 2013 7:24 am

habitual wrote:Children and the English shouldn't have guns.

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This seems like a good plan. It could be implemented easily with background checks to ensure the buyer isn't English or two kids in a long coat.

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Re: Gun Ads

Postby habitual » Fri May 03, 2013 7:30 am

Zero wrote:
This seems like a good plan. It could be implemented easily with background checks to ensure the buyer isn't English or two kids in a long coat.


This is why I firmly support background checks.

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Postby achilles » Fri May 03, 2013 9:14 am

habitual wrote:
This is why I firmly support background checks.

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And coat checks?
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Hearing the words "Cricket Club"... that is not what I think of. :shock:
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Re: Gun Ads

Postby Eli Katz » Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:50 am

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Postby 3MJ » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:31 pm

– SEPTEMBER 19, 2013, 2:28 PM EDT
Police said two men with concealed-carry permits died Wednesday after a shootout allegedly motivated by road rage, the Grand Rapids Press reported.

The initial police investigation showed Ionia, Mich. residents James Pullum, 43, and Robert Taylor, 56, pulled into a car wash parking lot after a confrontation on the road. They then exited their vehicles, drew handguns and exchanged fire, authorities said.

Police found both men at the scene with gunshot wounds, and the two were pronounced dead at an area hospital soon after, according to the newspaper.

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Postby 3MJ » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:34 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/21/opini ... .html?_r=0


In the aftermath of the gun rampage at the Washington Navy Yard that killed 12 Americans just blocks from Capitol Hill, President Obama expressed dismay that “this becomes a ritual that we go through every three, four months.”

By “this” he meant not just the horrific mass shootings but the tens of thousands of other gun deaths each year — all of them with an all-too-familiar aftermath: shock, followed by words and prayers of sympathy, followed by a complete unwillingness in official Washington “to take some basic actions” to better protect the public.

The ineffectualness of Washington’s politicians was palpable after this week’s assault. The Senate had already failed miserably to approve modest new gun restrictions despite public outrage over the massacre of 20 schoolchildren and 6 educators in Connecticut last December. The tacit, cynical question now was whether 12 more victims could contribute anything new to the equation.

Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic majority leader, said he had to be assured of enough votes for gun restrictions (which seems totally unlikely) before he would even try again. Steny Hoyer, the House Democratic minority whip, pointed to the recent voters’ recall of two Colorado state legislators because of their support for gun controls. “It does not bode well,” Mr. Hoyer said, for another Congressional effort to control what he called “access to weapons that can be used to kill a lot of people quickly.”

The White House spokesman, Jay Carney, said that Mr. Obama would not accept the gruesome spates of gun violence as “the new normal.” Yet as the president himself observed, both the gun mayhem and the ritual that follows are beginning to seem all too predictable.

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Postby 3MJ » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:35 pm

Guns do not make a nation safer, say US doctors who have compared the rate of firearms-related deaths in countries where many people own guns with the death rate in countries where gun ownership is rare.

Their findings, published Wednesday in the prestigious American Journal of Medicine, debunk the historic belief among many people in the United States that guns make a country safer, they say. On the contrary, the US, with the most guns per head in the world, has the highest rate of deaths from firearms, while Japan, which has the lowest rate of gun ownership, has the least.

The journal has fast-tracked publication of the study because of the shootings at the Washington navy yard. It was originally scheduled for later this week.

It follows an emotional appeal from a doctor at the trauma center in Washington where the victims of Aaron Alexis' random violence were taken. "I would like you to put my trauma center out of business," Janis Orlowski, chief medical officer at MedStar Washington Hospital Center, told reporters in the aftermath of the massacre. "I would like to not be an expert on gunshots. Let's get rid of this. This is not America."

The fraught question of whether gun ownership protects populations from crime or makes them less likely to be killed has been debated for 200 years, say the authors, Sripal Bangalore of NYU Langone Medical Center, and Franz H Messerli of St Luke's Roosevelt hospital, Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, New York. They say the arguments began as soon as the second amendment stating "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" was passed in 1791.

At one end is the argument that gun control laws are an infringement on the right to self-defense and on constitutional rights, and that there is no evidence that banning assault weapons would reduce crime. At the other end is the view that fewer firearms would reduce crime rates and overall lead to greater safety, they say.

In some of the recent mass shootings – for instance those in Aurora, Tucson, Oak Creek, Virginia Tech – it has been suggested that the killer was mentally ill and that lack of treatment was a bigger issue than gun ownership. With this in mind, the New York-based doctors looked in their study not only at the relationship of gun ownership to firearms deaths but also mental illness.

They examined data from 27 developed countries, using gun ownership figures from the Small Arms Survey and deaths from the World Health Organisation, the National Center for Health Statistics and others. They also looked at crime rates compiled by the United Nations for an indication of the safety of each country.

More guns meant more deaths, they found. "The gun ownership rate was a strong and independent predictor of firearm-related death," says Bangalore. "Private gun ownership was highest in the US. Japan, on the other end, had an extremely low gun ownership rate. Similarly, South Africa (9.4 per 100,000) and the US (10.2 per 100,000) had extremely high firearm-related deaths, whereas the United Kingdom (0.25 per 100,000) had an extremely low rate of firearm-related deaths.

"There was a significant correlation between guns per head per country and the rate of firearm-related deaths with Japan being on one end of the spectrum and the US being on the other. This argues against the notion of more guns translating into less crime. South Africa was the only outlier in that the observed firearms-related death rate was several times higher than expected from gun ownership."

High rates of mental illness in any country, on the other hand, did not predict more gun deaths.

"Although correlation is not the same as causation, it seems conceivable that abundant gun availability facilitates firearm-related deaths. Conversely, high crime rates may instigate widespread anxiety and fear, thereby motivating people to arm themselves and give rise to increased gun ownership, which, in turn, increases availability. The resulting vicious cycle could, bit by bit, lead to the polarized status that is now the case with the US," the doctors write.

"Regardless of exact cause and effect, the current study debunks the widely quoted hypothesis that countries with higher gun ownership are safer than those with low gun ownership."

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Re: Gun Ads

Postby 3MJ » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:37 pm

In other news related to that study. Water is still wet.

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