Age of Ultron #8: Yep, I still like it (Spoilers)
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They really haven't given it the same push at all. These interviews and features are being given a lot less trumpetfare than they have in the past. There's no urgency by the websites to get these up, and both Marvel and the creative teams involved have been a lot less chipper to push these interviews on their Twitter feeds. I mean, have you seen any big rundown or conversation about Age of Ultron #8 on any front page of any comic book site? Now you're engaging in Herald level tactics by being deliberately obtuse (see, I can throw around casual insults because I disagree with you too!). |
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Good Lord, Blue! It's just Thursday! It just came out yesterday! How do you know one isn't coming? |
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It wasn't push come to shove. The moment anyone helped Wolverine use the time platform, that person(s) was guilty of murder. Any struggling with it at that very moment when Wolverine sinks his claws was artificial in my eyes. Having Sue abet murder (twice) is indeed, as you claim, character developement. However, it's bad character develeopment that just makes her a murderer. |
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I think you have to put it in the context that Ultron murdered her husband, her brother, and the god-father of her children, as well as many other friends, and meant that she had abandoned her children in space. That's enough to change anyone's perspective. |
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More recycling. Hab |
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Exactly -- that means everybody who was there who let Wolverine go, since he didn't know how to operate the time platform, is culpable. Again, we don't have to agree on whether it was good or bad development. But clearly, Monica Rambeau, Clint Barton, Peter Parker -- they were fine with Hank Pym getting sanctioned, and that's interesting. They've worked with him, been his teammates, and they let him get killed because it was better for them all. I think Susan Richards made the choice that many people would've made, twice. Because what she left...it's all gone. Ultron won. He was always going to win, and if you want to tell me that it's ridiculous that everyone knew that effing robot was going to kill them all and they did nothing to find him and stop him, I'd agree with you. But I'm hopeful that what Sue, Rambeau, Clint...I'm hoping that what they allowed to happen is explored in the future. Because just like AvsX has had lasting repercussions, so should this. |
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Why are there two Wolverines? Hab |
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That is a great question -- one that is so obvious, one of two things is going to happen: Bendis is either going to explain it very clearly how you have two versions of the same character, at the same age, at once, or he'll gloss it over and be every bit deserving of the criticism that he would face. We'll find out which, in these final two issues. |
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I'm not a big fan of time travel stories, as I've said before. But I haven't complained about it as much because I'm trying to let these creators tell the story in the way they've plotted it out. |
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Doom's platforms basically makes alt timelines (Marvel Two-in-One #50 being the clearest example). What Doom's platforms don't normally do is stay in the alt timeline when your travel back to the 'present'. Sue & Wolverine should have returned to same decimated Earth that they left - changing nothing in thier reality (except that she's now a murderer). Dooms platform can be used to visit the timeline they created (ala M2in1's sequel in Marvel Two in One #100). And all this is something Sue knows (or did before Marvel retconned time travel to fit this story). |
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I don't have an issue with it in that instance because McCoy is the one that engineered the event. It just seems weird to me to point out that Fury had one of Doom's platforms and what's occurring is specifically what it's designed to prevent. Hab |
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Unless it's addressed it's a pretty huge plot hole And also in story's like these the rules when it comes to time travel and alternate timelines are pretty much what the story is about. Not a mistake I've really seen Bendis make before. Also get off the pipe. Hab |
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She's a conspirator, not a murderer. Hab |
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