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Age of Ultron #9: Well, well. Nice job, Bendis! (spoilers)

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Age of Ultron #9: Well, well. Nice job, Bendis! (spoilers)

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:37 am

After last month's street fight about moral character, storytelling and character development, I'm curious to see what complaints there are NOW.

All Bendis has done is a standard time travel trope: Make it as bad as possible, then loop it back to before the horrible choices are made, then have the problems be solved by the heroes doing what they could have done, should have done.

I stand by my assessment that this is a good -- not great or perfect -- but good story, because it has done nothing to harm any of these characters or use them in ways that aren't how they normally have been depicted, after Bendis pushed them hard, down the rabbit hole. Hell, Wolverine even got to do what he does best.

Extremely curious to see what happens in the final issue.
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Re: Age of Ultron #9: Well, well. Nice job, Bendis! (spoiler

Postby guitarsmashley » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:43 am

Who's on the last page? The Ultron or Angela?
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Postby Punchy » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:47 am

guitarsmashley wrote:Who's on the last page? The Ultron or Angela?


Ultron, in his original form, like the image below.

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Postby ElijahSnowFan » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:51 am

Punchy wrote:
Ultron, in his original form, like the image below.

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It's funny, isn't it? I got mocked for saying that this has been respectful of Marvel history, and BOOM! Lo and behold, unbelievers! 8) 8)
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Re: Age of Ultron #9: Well, well. Nice job, Bendis! (spoiler

Postby Punchy » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:53 am

ElijahSnowFan wrote:
It's funny, isn't it? I got mocked for saying that this has been respectful of Marvel history, and BOOM! Lo and behold, unbelievers! 8) 8)


I think Bendis actually re-uses Roy Thomas' original dialogue verbatim.

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Re: Age of Ultron #9: Well, well. Nice job, Bendis! (spoiler

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:55 am

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I think Bendis actually re-uses Roy Thomas' original dialogue verbatim.


Yep, sure did.
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Re: Age of Ultron #9: Well, well. Nice job, Bendis! (spoiler

Postby chap22 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:56 am

ElijahSnowFan wrote:
It's funny, isn't it? I got mocked for saying that this has been respectful of Marvel history, and BOOM! Lo and behold, unbelievers! 8) 8)

referencing it (or even lifting it in this instance) =/= respecting it, necessarily. :wink:
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Postby LobsterJ » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:01 am

If he used Roy Thomas' dialogue verbatim that officially makes it the best dialogue in a Bendis comic, ever. Hooray!

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Postby habitual » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:02 am

chap22 wrote:referencing it (or even lifting it in this instance) =/= respecting it, necessarily. :wink:


Well played on the last page call.

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Postby chap22 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:05 am

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Well played on the last page call.

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thought that was one of my easier predictions ever, honestly. but thanks. 8)
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Re: Age of Ultron #9: Well, well. Nice job, Bendis! (spoiler

Postby ElijahSnowFan » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:05 am

chap22 wrote:referencing it (or even lifting it in this instance) =/= respecting it, necessarily. :wink:


I think in this case, it did, because the one thing that Bendis did that was really cute was have the dialogue that he absolutely should've: He had Hank Pym realize that he was building a sentient robot that would continue to evolve and grow increasingly dangerous.

That was the part about respecting Marvel history that I'm truly referring to: The whole point of this story, the whole point of this ENTIRE story, isn't that we didn't see Ultron.

The whole point is that at some point, Ultron was going to kill us all. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, Ultron was going to kill us all. That paradigm had to be fixed -- at some point, "Age of Ultron" was going to take place, and Hank Pym was responsible for it.

Bendis didn't invalidate any of the stories that came before him. He took the stories to their logical conclusion, and by doing so, gave one of Marvel's longstanding heroes a chance to right one of the single-biggest tactical errors ever made.
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Re: Age of Ultron #9: Well, well. Nice job, Bendis! (spoiler

Postby habitual » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:18 am

ElijahSnowFan wrote:
I think in this case, it did, because the one thing that Bendis did that was really cute was have the dialogue that he absolutely should've: He had Hank Pym realize that he was building a sentient robot that would continue to evolve and grow increasingly dangerous.

That was the part about respecting Marvel history that I'm truly referring to: The whole point of this story, the whole point of this ENTIRE story, isn't that we didn't see Ultron.

The whole point is that at some point, Ultron was going to kill us all. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, Ultron was going to kill us all. That paradigm had to be fixed -- at some point, "Age of Ultron" was going to take place, and Hank Pym was responsible for it.

Bendis didn't invalidate any of the stories that came before him. He took the stories to their logical conclusion, and by doing so, gave one of Marvel's longstanding heroes a chance to right one of the single-biggest tactical errors ever made.


Too bad it cost 36 bucks to get to that point amirite?

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Postby guitarsmashley » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:23 am

habitual wrote:
Too bad it cost 36 bucks to get to that point amirite?

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More importantly he still shrunk down and got all up in Janets guts.
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Postby ElijahSnowFan » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:27 am

habitual wrote:
Too bad it cost 36 bucks to get to that point amirite?

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Ha! Buying a BMB book and complaining about pace is like buying a Geoff Johns book with Sinestro or Black Adam in it and asking why the bad guy is better than the good guy.

Caveat emptor, my friend. Caveat emptor. 8)
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Postby IvCNuB4 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:40 am

guitarsmashley wrote:
More importantly he still shrunk down and got all up in Janets guts.


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