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Mark Waid is MAAADDD About Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

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Mark Waid is MAAADDD About Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

Postby LOLtron » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:17 am

Mark Waid is MAAADDD About Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

The hot-headed comic book writer posted a scathing review of the movie on the Thrillbent blog.



Source: Thrillbent

Mark Waid has never been shy about unleashing his vengeance on the internet, whether its to threaten nerds about smack-talking Stephen Wacker's departure from 52, pwn easily-distracted writer J. Michael Straczynski over Spider-Man sales, shame Newsarama editor Lucas Siegel on Twitter over a poorly written fluff piece, or berate a troop of Girl Scouts when Stephen Wacker can't open a box a cookies. So when we learned that Waid had posted a review of Man of Steel on the Thrillbent blog, and saw tweets like this one...

...we knew we were in for some classic Waid awesomeness.

Stop reading here if you don't want to be spoiled...

So what was Waid's problem with Man of Steel? Well, he didn't hate everything. Amongst some of the positives, Waid listed the characterization of Pa Kent, the musical score, and the top half of Superman's costume (Waid is a boobs guy). In fact, Waid claims to have liked the first teo thirds of the movie well enough. However, he doesn't seem to feel that the movie captured Superman's essence as a hero, as the hero allows too much collateral damage during the movie's big Smallville battle:

A lot of destruction. A lot of destruction–and Superman making absolutely no effort to take the fight, like, ONE BLOCK AWAY INTO A CORNFIELD INSTEAD OF ON MAIN STREET. Still, saving people here and there, but certainly never going out of his way to do so, and mostly just trying not to get his ass kicked.

 

Of course, things only get worse during the Metropolis battle, which Waid calls disaster porn and compares to Hiroshima:

Minute after minute after endless minute of Some Giant Machine laying so much waste to Metropolis that it’s inconceivable that we weren’t watching millions of people die in every single shot.

 

And Superman fares no better during the fight with Zod, according to Waid, thanks to "his utter disregard for the collateral damage was just jaw-dropping as they just kept crashing through buildings full of survivors." Waid sums up these complaints, saying:

Superman rarely if ever bothered to give the safety and welfare of the people around him one bit of thought.

 

But it wasn't Superman's callous disregard for the welfare of regular citizens that was the straw that broke the camel's back for Waid. That honor belongs to the movie's climax:

Some crazy guy in front of us was muttering “Don’t do it…don’t do it…DON’T DO IT…” and then Superman snapped Zod’s neck and that guy stood up and said in a very loud voice, “THAT’S IT, YOU LOST ME, I’M OUT,” and his girlfriend had to literally pull him back into his seat and keep him from walking out and that crazy guy was me. That crazy guy was me.

 

Ah, there's the Mark Waid we know and love. Yelling at the movie screen in what was apparently a nerd rage fueled our of body experience.

It's a great review, and classic Waid. Waid is an extremely knowledgeable guy about comics, and we already know he doesn't pull his punches, so it's really worth a read, provided you've seen the movie and don't mind having the whole thing spoiled (I certainly didn't). Head over to Thrillbent and check it out. And while you're there, check out some innovative digital comics!



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Re: Mark Waid is MAAADDD About Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

Postby 3MJ » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:28 am

Waid. This is a new Superman for a new age. You don't have to like it, but questioning the characterisation of a brand new character with no other appearances seems weird.

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Postby MrBlack » Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:29 am

Jeez, did the movie threaten Steve Wacker?

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Postby The Beast » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:05 pm

Thank Zod Waid is never going to write a Superman story again, his love affair with the Silver Age eunuch is worse than Morrison's.

For all his extensive knowledge of all things Superman, it seems like he's completely ignorant of the Golden Age, Fleischer cartoons, Adventures of Superman with George Reeves, or John Byrne's unsurpassed revamp of the character post CoIE.

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Postby BubbaKanoosh » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:52 pm

If you don't like this Superman, just imagine this is a Hyperion film set in an alternate Marvel Squadron Supreme Earth (pick a version).

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Postby Rockman » Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:58 pm

His non spoiler review isn't quite as impassioned as this one

Non-spoiler review: It’s not for me. It had some very nice moments, several I wish I’d written (and at least three I did, I’m proud to say–there was lots of BIRTHRIGHT in it), but I can’t imagine wanting to watch it again anytime soon. YMMV. It’s a good science-fiction movie, but it’s very cold. It’s not a very satisfying super-hero movie. That said, if your favorite part of SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE was Superman standing in the Fortress while Jor-El lectured him, you’re gonna love MAN OF STEEL.


He even says it's a good film.

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Postby Herald » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:44 pm

I'm with Waid; Superman killing is the line they shouldn't have crossed.

But, of course, they HAVE to have their "This is NOT your father's Superman!! :shock:"

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Postby bkthomson » Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:45 pm

I just saw the movie and I agree with Mark's comments. Though I also thought they botched the secret identity since he seemed to be pretty much outed in four or five scenes.
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Postby GOSD » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:01 pm

I'm ok with Superman killing. I kinda like it.

Can't wait to see this now! :shock: :-D

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Postby Jack Burton » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:03 pm

I really don't like Superman killing. It's not something I am happy with.

However in Batman 89 Batman killed on screen the Joker at least several thugs and blew up that entire chemical factory. So it has happened that characters who have always been big on no killing have killed.

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Postby GOSD » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:13 pm

Jack Burton wrote:I really don't like Superman killing. It's not something I am happy with.

However in Batman 89 Batman killed on screen the Joker at least several thugs and blew up that entire chemical factory. So it has happened that characters who have always been big on no killing have killed.


Yep. Just like in Batman Begins. Bats killed Ra's and I was ok with that too.

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Postby sdsichero » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:21 pm

MrBlack wrote:Jeez, did the movie threaten Steve Wacker?

Everyone knows Zod is a thinly veiled reference to Wacker.

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Postby LobsterJ » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:32 pm

I can't believe anybody had any hope this was going to be good. The director made one moderately entertaining movie years ago and everything since has been garbage, and the one comic adaptation he did before was terrible and showed he had no grasp of the source material.

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Postby The Beast » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:47 pm

LobsterJ wrote:I can't believe anybody had any hope this was going to be good. The director made one moderately entertaining movie years ago and everything since has been garbage, and the one comic adaptation he did before was terrible and showed he had no grasp of the source material.


What are you on about? MoS is the best Superman movie to date and one of the best super hero movies ever.

As far as the source material goes, here's a reading list;

Action Comics #1/ Superman #1
Fleischer's cartoons
Byrne's Man of Steel
The Supergirl Saga
Red Son

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Re: Mark Waid is MAAADDD About Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

Postby dairydead » Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:52 pm

The way I saw it was that this was the first time ever that Clark had to defend himself. He wasn't some confident superhero who could control a battle with ease, but a guy still trying to figure out how to handle a fight. I dunno if anyone has ever been in a fight, but your first few times, you really don't know how to handle yourself, and I think that's what Snyder was going for, while emphasizing the fact that he was also starting to realize that he could save people as well as fight

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