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IvCNuB4

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Postby IvCNuB4 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:35 am

HNutz wrote:Do they ever explain why Magneto is a "villain" after siding with the Avengers against the Phoenix Five?


S.F. Jude Terror wrote:Because the Avengers are fascist hypocrites.



:lol:
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Grayson

Outhouse Drafter

Postby Grayson » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:49 pm

e_galston wrote:its not like Wolverine and the Avengers were gonna let him go, just because he wasn't the villain there doesn't mean he isn't gonna be held accountable for the rest of his crimes. Magneto believes in what Scott's doing that's why he went to his side.


This is the part that is confusing to me. Everyone knew where Magneto was prior to AvX, it was never a secret that he was a member of Scott's team and living on Utopia. If anyone was really interested in holding him accountable for his crimes, why not go for him then? Why wait until after AvX?

It still doesn't explain why his powers were messed up by the phoenix even though he wasn't part of the Five...


I wonder if they will ever get around to explaining this. It seems like a pretty big plot hole that is too blatantly obvious to ignore but here we are, 8 months later, without a real explanation.
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e_galston

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Postby e_galston » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:58 pm

Grayson wrote:
This is the part that is confusing to me. Everyone knew where Magneto was prior to AvX, it was never a secret that he was a member of Scott's team and living on Utopia. If anyone was really interested in holding him accountable for his crimes, why not go for him then? Why wait until after AvX?



I wonder if they will ever get around to explaining this. It seems like a pretty big plot hole that is too blatantly obvious to ignore but here we are, 8 months later, without a real explanation.


well when Magneto joined the x-men on Utopia they were "technically" a separate country in international waters and technically since Utopia itself was attached to the bottom of the ocean by the spire Namor and company built it was technically part of Atlantis so they may have not have wanted to make a huge international incident just to arrest Magneto, especially since he wasn't at the moment a threat, and Scott and company WERE working with the rest of the Superhero community... but now that he helped break out Scott from prison they want to arrest him.
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Grayson

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Postby Grayson » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:18 pm

e_galston wrote:well when Magneto joined the x-men on Utopia they were "technically" a separate country in international waters and technically since Utopia itself was attached to the bottom of the ocean by the spire Namor and company built it was technically part of Atlantis so they may have not have wanted to make a huge international incident just to arrest Magneto, especially since he wasn't at the moment a threat, and Scott and company WERE working with the rest of the Superhero community... but now that he helped break out Scott from prison they want to arrest him.


Ok, I can buy that.

However, now it brings everything back around to the point that Utopia was considered a separate country when Captain America stormed it's shores with a cloaked helicarrier and an army of super "heroes" in order to demand that Scott hand over Hope at the beginning of AvX. There you have it folks. Captain America was not concerned with causing an international incident in order to recover Magneto, a suspected international criminal, however, he had no problem doing it when it came to abducting a child who had committed no crime! :-D
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e_galston

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Postby e_galston » Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:38 pm

Grayson wrote:
Ok, I can buy that.

However, now it brings everything back around to the point that Utopia was considered a separate country when Captain America stormed it's shores with a cloaked helicarrier and an army of super "heroes" in order to demand that Scott hand over Hope at the beginning of AvX. There you have it folks. Captain America was not concerned with causing an international incident in order to recover Magneto, a suspected international criminal, however, he had no problem doing it when it came to abducting a child who had committed no crime! :-D


there's a difference when there's a cosmic entity barrelling towards earth with a history of destroying planets, and a history of enhabiting supremely powerful red headed green eyed mutants...
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Grayson

Outhouse Drafter

Postby Grayson » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:09 pm

e_galston wrote:there's a difference when there's a cosmic entity barrelling towards earth with a history of destroying planets, and a history of enhabiting supremely powerful red headed green eyed mutants...


Doesn't matter, Captain America took a superhero army to a sovereign nation and demanded that nation hand over one of it's citizens. Shameful really. Cap forced Scott's hand. :smt011
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Arion

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Postby Arion » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:52 pm

e_galston wrote:
well when Magneto joined the x-men on Utopia they were "technically" a separate country in international waters and technically since Utopia itself was attached to the bottom of the ocean by the spire Namor and company built it was technically part of Atlantis so they may have not have wanted to make a huge international incident just to arrest Magneto, especially since he wasn't at the moment a threat, and Scott and company WERE working with the rest of the Superhero community... but now that he helped break out Scott from prison they want to arrest him.


Territorial law must be quite a headache for Marvel lawyers...

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