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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:07 am

syxxpakk wrote:
I actually have a solution for that. It's pure fan fic, but whatever. Hitler was into the occult, right? Between Vandal Savage, Wotan, and Mordru, you've got three villains that could fit a JSA vs. Occult Nazi themes. So part of that occult Nazi story involves searching for an artifact that grants long-lasting life and that affects the JSAers granting them said long-lasting life.



With some, the magic is already there. Alan Scott was shown as being brought back to life so why he aged at all... yet was rejuvenated in the old GLCQ... Jay Garrick and other super-powered types could just not age or age very fast being that vital due to their powers. Dr Fate and The Spectre are immortal.
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby syxxpakk » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:09 am

Cat-Scratch wrote:

With some, the magic is already there. Alan Scott was shown as being brought back to life so why he aged at all... yet was rejuvenated in the old GLCQ... Jay Garrick and other super-powered types could just not age or age very fast being that vital due to their powers. Dr Fate and The Spectre are immortal.


See, I like my idea better because when you do it your way - you're coming up with ways for each individual member to be unaffected. That gets to be ridiculous. Give a blanket reason and it's not so bad. Also, in my fan fic world Alan Scott is just a regular Green Lantern.
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:16 am

syxxpakk wrote:
See, I like my idea better because when you do it your way - you're coming up with ways for each individual member to be unaffected. That gets to be ridiculous. Give a blanket reason and it's not so bad. Also, in my fan fic world Alan Scott is just a regular Green Lantern.


Well, the thing is, they did do your thing, sort of. Ian Karkill and the All-Star Squadron 1984 Annual.

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Basically the villain tried to steal the life energies of all future Presidents that were alive at the time. He was thwarted but had also collected a ton of lives from others. He went boom and that energy was passed on to the present JSAers and life partners.
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby holtom2000 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:31 am

Cat-Scratch wrote:
Well, the thing is, they did do your thing, sort of. Ian Karkill and the All-Star Squadron 1984 Annual.

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That annual was the BOMB!

Basically the villain tried to steal the life energies of all future Presidents that were alive at the time. He was thwarted but had also collected a ton of lives from others. He went boom and that energy was passed on to the present JSAers and life partners.

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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby holtom2000 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:33 am

Oooh I was one issue off

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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby syxxpakk » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:48 pm

Would I be mistaken in thinking that the story you're mentioning is pre-COIE?
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:15 pm

syxxpakk wrote:Would I be mistaken in thinking that the story you're mentioning is pre-COIE?


Nope, it was and also post-COIE too.
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby Juan Cena » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:32 pm

holtom2000 wrote:The JSA origin, as told in DC Special (28 I think) literally has them fighting Nazis
and later in All-Star Squadron they are all irradiated with energy from Ian Karkell.. and later time in Limbo... so yes, JSA fought a lot of Nazis.. they also fought them in the Last Days of the JSA which I have not read in forever and was super awesome


And like I said, that was stuff added long after the original JSA stories from the 1940's were published.
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby Juan Cena » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:33 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
Nope, it was and also post-COIE too.



Sand Superman and Batman, of course.
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby Juan Cena » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:40 pm

Cat-Scratch wrote:
That and most of the heroes of that era were created to fight "foreign foes" aka Nazis. There's also more to that era than just Nazis.



I can't recall any of the original JSAers origins being tied into fighting Nazis or Fascists of the Japanese. Liberty Belle is the only character I can recall having an origin directly tied into WWII. There were probably more Quality and Fawcett characters with WWII connected origins.

Timely (Marvel) may have had more characters with WWII-related origins than DC did.
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby IvCNuB4 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:59 pm

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Justice_Society_of_America

Roosevelt recruited Flash and Green Lantern to retrieve the Spear of Destiny from Hitler. The mission started in Scotland where they were captured and then taken to Berlin. Hitler then sent them to Washington DC with a bomb. Other heroes joined in for that battle.
After that they formally became the JSA but only fought Axis agents and Nazis that were on American soil.
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby holtom2000 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:03 pm

Juan Cena wrote:
And like I said, that was stuff added long after the original JSA stories from the 1940's were published.

Oh I see your point now. But still, all I ever knew was them fighting nazis

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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:45 pm

Juan Cena wrote:

I can't recall any of the original JSAers origins being tied into fighting Nazis or Fascists of the Japanese. Liberty Belle is the only character I can recall having an origin directly tied into WWII. There were probably more Quality and Fawcett characters with WWII connected origins.

Timely (Marvel) may have had more characters with WWII-related origins than DC did.


Now please respond to the later point I made.

Plus, note that only a few Fawcett or Quality were also connected to fighting the Nazis or Fascists of the Japanese, but was later included.
No Timely did not. It was about the same for all. The fact was though, that the surge in numbers had to do with having stories of them all fighting against Nazis or the Japanese.
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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:46 pm

Juan Cena wrote:

Sand Superman and Batman, of course.


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"Why are you pointing your screwdrivers like that? They're scientific instruments, not water pistols."
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"Are you capable of speaking without flapping your hands about?"
""Timey" what? "Timey wimey"?"

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Re: Marvel's sliding continuity

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:47 pm

Juan Cena wrote:
And like I said, that was stuff added long after the original JSA stories from the 1940's were published.


Those stories had that there was no origin for the JSA. Add that in that era, origins tended to be told well after when the character was popular, not always at the start.
"Why are you pointing your screwdrivers like that? They're scientific instruments, not water pistols."
"Oh, the pointing again! They're screwdrivers! What are you going to do? Assemble a cabinet at them?"
"Are you capable of speaking without flapping your hands about?"
""Timey" what? "Timey wimey"?"

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