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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:17 am

nietoperz wrote:I'll be interested to hear what you reckon, Punchy. I've written my Masters thesis on Sandman...


I liked the first volume, especially the issue in the diner and the first appearance of Death. I'm aware that the series as a whole is very different from this first book, which is very much in the vein of Alan Moore's Swamp Thing.
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nietoperz

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Postby nietoperz » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:19 am

Punchy wrote:
I liked the first volume, especially the issue in the diner and the first appearance of Death. I'm aware that the series as a whole is very different from this first book, which is very much in the vein of Alan Moore's Swamp Thing.



It is. The first volume is actually the weakest (believe it or not) - Gaiman hadn't really found his feet or voice yet (and I say this as someone who loves it dearly).
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:27 am

nietoperz wrote:

It is. The first volume is actually the weakest (believe it or not) - Gaiman hadn't really found his feet or voice yet (and I say this as someone who loves it dearly).


Even without his feet and voice, it's still very good.

What's your dissertation called?
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nietoperz

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Postby nietoperz » Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:50 am

Not sure if I should say, as if you haven't read the whole thing it will spoil it for you.
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:03 am

nietoperz wrote:Not sure if I should say, as if you haven't read the whole thing it will spoil it for you.


Ah, OK

Once I've finished book 10 I'll ask again!
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Postby LobsterJ » Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:00 am

I fall on the Keb side of things, I think the first few trades of Sandman are the best. Perhaps that is due to the fact that Gaiman hadn't found his voice yet, I am not a huge fan of his voice, turns out. I much prefer him channeling Moore!

Punchy, after you finish Sandman roll right into Lucifer, it is (to my mind) just as good.
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Postby misac » Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:16 pm

Journey Into Mystery v.2: Fear Itself Fallout – Really good epilogue to Fear Itself. The Volstagg bit was really fun.

Art was terrible, Whilce Portacio does most of it.

Avengers Academy: AvX: Fucking Avengers. They take the X-kids to the academy to be held. They’re not prisoners but they’re to be attacked if they try to leave. :lol: Fucking dicks.

It was a pretty good. Hercules and Emma Frost were really good in this. She was so condescending.
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:25 am

Read The Doll's House yesterday, really good again. I loved the issue where Morpheus meets Hob Gadling once every 100 years, that was just beautiful. And the Serial Killer Convention was just genius. Scary, but also hilarious, Gaiman really skewers comic-con. My only real problem is the still odd-feeling connections to the DCU, Lyta and Hector Hall. It doesn't help that Hector Hall is one of the most confusing characters in all of comics, I was a bit lost with that stuff. It was crazy seeing that Chris Bachalo drew that issue, his style is completely different!

Now on to...

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nietoperz

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Postby nietoperz » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:59 am

With Hector and Lyta, all you really need to know is that at that point Hector had died (in Infinity Inc) and then come back as The Sandman, and took Lyta (who had been Fury) to live in the land of dreams with him. This is way before the Doctor Fate thing.
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Postby Punchy » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:01 am

nietoperz wrote:With Hector and Lyta, all you really need to know is that at that point Hector had died (in Infinity Inc) and then come back as The Sandman, and took Lyta (who had been Fury) to live in the land of dreams with him. This is way before the Doctor Fate thing.


Ah, OK.

That Johns JSA stuff was so bloody confusing. So at this point Hector has only been Silver Scarab and Sandman then?
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nietoperz

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Postby nietoperz » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:07 am

Punchy wrote:
Ah, OK.

That Johns JSA stuff was so bloody confusing. So at this point Hector has only been Silver Scarab and Sandman then?


Exactly, yeah.
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:16 am

nietoperz wrote:
Exactly, yeah.


Cool, I can ignore Doctor Fate then.
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Keb

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Postby Keb » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:58 am

Hob Gadling issues are neat!
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Postby Zero » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:28 am

Punchy wrote:
Ah, OK.

That Johns JSA stuff was so bloody confusing. So at this point Hector has only been Silver Scarab and Sandman then?


I would try to avoid reading anything about anything going on until you're done, almost every character is pretty important more than once.
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:11 am

Zero wrote:
I would try to avoid reading anything about anything going on until you're done, almost every character is pretty important more than once.


I'll try! I only know about Hector and Lyta from reading Johns' JSA when it was coming out. I think Morpheus actually appears in one issue of that run.

When would you guys say is the best time to read the Death mini-series? Vertigo have just released a new hardcover collecting both of them (and some other stuff), should I wait until I've read the main Sandman run? Or read them during?

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