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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby Zero » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:22 pm

I've used fridging to refer to any character dying solely to motivate the hero into action.

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby Thunderstorm » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:23 pm

They should have put her body in a fridge at least.

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby Punchy » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:24 pm

Tumblr is exploding!

It's worth noting that, just like with Nico and Catwoman, in all likelihood, this character will be back from the dead sooner rather than later. This is a comic all about Valkyries, I wouldn't be surprised in Annabelle Riggs becomes a Valkyrie.

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby Rockman » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:24 pm

that book looks terrible.

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:26 pm

Ummm. Spoiler alert? I fucking read Fearless Defenders. It's one of my favorite books. And I haven't gotten comics this week yet. :x
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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby Rockman » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:33 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:Ummm. Spoiler alert? I fucking read Fearless Defenders. It's one of my favorite books. And I haven't gotten comics this week yet. :x


First line of the link Jude!!!

There may be spoilers for those who haven’t read through all the Marvel comics they were intending to this week. So bear this in mind


And spoilers aren't real anyways. How can you be spoiled on something that you haven't read, that makes no sense. Continuity either is or it isn't, and if you haven't read it yet, then it has happened, then thusly by the tenebaum principle of comic book continuity you cannot be spoiled on anything, because you didn't read it yet!!!! Verily.

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby IvCNuB4 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:37 pm

Daammn, girl. I guess you'd have to be a Valkyrie to carry those two horizontal grain silos around on your chest :lol:
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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby Victorian Squid » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:59 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:Ummm. Spoiler alert? I fucking read Fearless Defenders. It's one of my favorite books. And I haven't gotten comics this week yet. :x


How the hell can you even read a book that looks so awful?! That boob armor? That artwork is inexcusably bad.

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby sdsichero » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:07 pm

Punchy wrote:So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is fridging


I don't know, but it's cold.
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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby S.F. Jude Terror » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:23 pm

Rockman wrote:
First line of the link Jude!!!



And spoilers aren't real anyways. How can you be spoiled on something that you haven't read, that makes no sense. Continuity either is or it isn't, and if you haven't read it yet, then it has happened, then thusly by the tenebaum principle of comic book continuity you cannot be spoiled on anything, because you didn't read it yet!!!! Verily.


I didn't read the link. I did read Punchy's posts.

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby Victorian Squid » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:29 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
I didn't read the link. I did read Punchy's posts.


Do I really need to point out where you went wrong there?

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby MrBlack » Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:35 pm

Zero wrote:I've used fridging to refer to any character dying solely to motivate the hero into action.

The problem with taking such a broad definition is that part of the problem with the "women in refrigerators" syndrome is that it is reducing female characters to nothing more than a plot device for a male character. It's demeaning to women. It's like having the black guy be the first to die in every movie. The problem isn't the fact that a secondary character has died, but that a certain group seems to be more frequently targetted for such deaths.

It's a somewhat different situation when you change the gender roles, which seems to be the crux of the feminist complaint. It might still be lazy writing, but it's not inherently offensive.

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby superfictious » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:12 pm

MrBlack wrote:The problem with taking such a broad definition is that part of the problem with the "women in refrigerators" syndrome is that it is reducing female characters to nothing more than a plot device for a male character. It's demeaning to women. It's like having the black guy be the first to die in every movie. The problem isn't the fact that a secondary character has died, but that a certain group seems to be more frequently targetted for such deaths.

It's a somewhat different situation when you change the gender roles, which seems to be the crux of the feminist complaint. It might still be lazy writing, but it's not inherently offensive.


I think their argument is full of shit, akin to the "muscular half-naked male characters are meant to be shown as strong, but muscular half-naked female characters are meant to be shown as sex objects", as if objectification is a disease for only those with a certain chromosomal set, and women are beyond sexist thoughts and the lures of flesh.

Sure, I hate that blacks are seemingly always killed in horror flicks, but I recognize it as cliched storytelling and not some subconscious agenda against my race. There are substantially more male (hetero) superheroes, and due to the (tire) tropes of superhero storytelling people close to them--whether mates, friends, or parents--tend to often die for motivation. Readers don't like their heroes inherently altruistic, so murder is used as a ploy to compensate.

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Re: So now killing a woman to motivate another woman is frid

Postby HNutz » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:24 pm

S.F. Jude Terror wrote:
I didn't read the link. I did read Punchy's posts.


Yeah, I'm annoyed that book was spoiled for me, too.

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