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by **Greg** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:08 pm

This movie was top notch fun and awesomeness!

by **Black_Orchid** » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:17 am

I wept tears of joy at it's awesomeness. Comparing it to ID4 is worthy (until the planned sequel ruins it). Michael Bay should retire now to save himself any more embarrassment at being schooled in the art of big smash 'em robot movies.

Also Godzilla better step it up next year, the bar has been raised.

by **Black_Orchid** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:06 am

Watched it again, this time in IMAX 3D. The 3D isn't necessary viewing but the IMAX is. Plus we got free posters. Win-win.

by **Zechs** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:33 am

Black_Orchid wrote:Watched it again, this time in IMAX 3D. The 3D isn't necessary viewing but the IMAX is. Plus we got free posters. Win-win.

Yes mine is on the wall. I have another for a friend who wanted that IMAX poster.

by **Victorian Squid** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:12 am

Well, it doesn't seem to be nearly as successful as Independence Day and cost much, much more. Blame it on a marketing campaign that only catered to the Comicon crowd (who would have gone to see it opening weekend regardless) but studio execs are rapidly tightening the purse strings on huge budget films like this as a result of all these failures recently unless they're already a well-established money-maker.

Or as the gentlemen behind me in the theater said during the preview, "What the fuck is a kay-joo?"

Bad title, and a marketing campaign that did absolutely nothing to sell the movie to the larger audience it needed to be successful. The trailer I saw was largely incomprehensible to anyone who wasn't familiar already with the sci fi/Japanese themes in it.

Not to invite the usual anti-Warner Bros harangues, but I am surprised they would make such an obvious mistake promoting a big film. On the other hand, Disney let legal tangles inspire them to call a movie "John Carter" and market it similarly badly. But Del Toro could have given any title he wanted to P Rim, there was no need to settle on a clunker. And since the OP invites this comparison: Independence Day. Pacific Rim. One title is epic, the other is septic.

by **Jubilee** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:11 am

I'm not interested in this film at all. Hopefully Hollywood stops making rubbish like this and instead makes something appealing to me (more grim and gritty- less fanboy nonsense)

by **Zechs** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:58 am

Victorian Squid wrote:Well, it doesn't seem to be nearly as successful as Independence Day and cost much, much more. Blame it on a marketing campaign that only catered to the Comicon crowd (who would have gone to see it opening weekend regardless) but studio execs are rapidly tightening the purse strings on huge budget films like this as a result of all these failures recently unless they're already a well-established money-maker.

Or as the gentlemen behind me in the theater said during the preview, "What the fuck is a kay-joo?"

Bad title, and a marketing campaign that did absolutely nothing to sell the movie to the larger audience it needed to be successful. The trailer I saw was largely incomprehensible to anyone who wasn't familiar already with the sci fi/Japanese themes in it.

Not to invite the usual anti-Warner Bros harangues, but I am surprised they would make such an obvious mistake promoting a big film. On the other hand, Disney let legal tangles inspire them to call a movie "John Carter" and market it similarly badly. But Del Toro could have given any title he wanted to P Rim, there was no need to settle on a clunker. And since the OP invites this comparison: Independence Day. Pacific Rim. One title is epic, the other is septic.

I wouldn't call it a straight bomb. The movie is making monster dough outside the US and hasn't even hit Japan or China YET. Movie's gonna make a profit.

by **outsider** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:15 am

I wonder if DreamWorks would have sued if they used the title "Monsters Vs. Robots" :lol:

by **Black_Orchid** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:22 am

The marketing, I agree, sucked. Other than the teases from comic con the last few years that insured the base crowd would see it, it's relying on word of mouth. And that doesn't seem to be helping here.

I left the theater wanting a little Gipsy Danger to fight my Godzilla figures. And I wanted a t-shirt. Even if the movie didn't do well in the US it should have been merchandising gold. Del Toro fails on that mark. He is so controlling over the products that hardly any were made. Only three figures released before the movie? They should have had a whole line of Jaegars and Kaiju in the 6" range on shelves months ago. I guess NECO is to blame for the lack of tees, bags, and all the other low dollar items that should be at stores. And not just Hot Topic.

by **Jubilee** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:32 am

Zechs the film is pretty much 50/50.

by **chap22** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:48 am

is this movie great? NO.

is this movie good? maybe just barely.

but is this movie fun? oh HELLS yes. I felt like a 9-year-old kid watching Godzilla on the Sunday afternoon movie on TV again, only this movie was about a million times better-looking. my buddy and I who went to see it Wednesday semi-MST3K'd it for most of the movie (oh look that's just like Top Gun. oh look they pulled that scene almost straight from Armageddon. oh look...), but it wasn't in a bad way, it was more like "oh look, that's just like Top Gun...only with giant fucking robots fighting giant fucking monsters!!!!!" we had a fucking blast.

it will not win any awards. it probably won't make enough money to justify a sequel or earn del Toro any more HUGE budgets anytime soon. but it is more than well worth the $10 to go see it in the theater if you are or ever have been 13 years old and/or ever loved giant monster disaster movies. just a helluva fun movie if you're willing to turn off your brain and just be entertained.

by **Zechs** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:49 am

Jubilee wrote:Zechs the film is pretty much 50/50.

It just hit 100 million this week globally and still hasn't opened in other areas of the world.

by **sdsichero** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:31 pm

Victorian Squid wrote:The trailer I saw was largely incomprehensible to anyone who wasn't familiar already with the sci fi/Japanese themes in it.

Though I would understand how some might not find it appealing (it was a notch too brodude for me), I don't see how it is incomprehensible. Giant monsters vs. giant robots. Is it really that hard to understand?

King Kong and Beast from 20,000 Fathoms preceded Godzilla. Though giant robots weren't as popular in Western culture as in Japan, they do exist.

by **sdsichero** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:32 pm

chap22 wrote:it will not win any awards.

Maybe not. However, technically there were some nice effects.

by **Victorian Squid** » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:21 pm

sdsichero wrote:
Though I would understand how some might not find it appealing (it was a notch too brodude for me), I don't see how it is incomprehensible. Giant monsters vs. giant robots. Is it really that hard to understand?

King Kong and Beast from 20,000 Fathoms preceded Godzilla. Though giant robots weren't as popular in Western culture as in Japan, they do exist.

I only saw one trailer, but IMO bad editing and choice of shots did not give the action the sense of scale it should have. A giant robot is cool, sure, but a close up of part of a giant robot does not give you the same dynamics. It was a shitty trailer in that it didn't communicate well to the larger audience. Monster movies used to be popular 50 years ago, sure, but they were still a niche market.

Are you seriously comparing it to King Kong, or the conditions to how movies were made and marketed in back then? I can't take you seriously, I'm afraid. This isn't 1933 and movies are promoted quite differently today, to a different audience, under different viewing conditions. No one told people they needed to "turn off their brains" to enjoy a movie, for starters.