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[A.R.P.]

You should know I'm with you on. Nocenti's run was damn good and I dropped Bendis's Daredevil pretty quickly.

[Amoebas]

This isn't the Silver Surfers fist foray into a DD comic:
http://themattmurdockchronicles.blogspo ... l-282.html

Although the last time he was in the comic it was during a pretty awful run with pretty awful art and a worse story. It's unbelievable how bad it was then.

I thought I remembered another time when they met and voila...



Except this doesn't actually count. Ten points if anyone can explain why.

[alaska1125]

I thought I remembered another time when they met and voila...



Except this doesn't actually count. Ten points if anyone can explain why.

Two words: Puppet Master.

[Amoebas]

Two words: Puppet Master.

Bzzzt - try again.

[alaska1125]

Bzzzt - try again.

Hmm...outside of the fact that it wasn't the real Surfer (rather a clay simulacrum), I guess I'm at a loss.

[3MJ]

Bendis Daredevil is one of the best comic runs ever written. Far superior to any other run.

[Amoebas]

Hmm...outside of the fact that it wasn't the real Surfer (rather a clay simulacrum), I guess I'm at a loss.

Bingo

[HNutz]

it is, admittedly, a really weird, and at times unevfen run. and to me it's almost like 3 runs: there's the early stuff where she plays with the "shadow lawyer" behind other attorneys fighting for poor plaintiffs against massive corporations status quo, introduces Bushwhacker and Ammo and Bullet and Typhoid Mary and then, to use your word, just completely destroys DD. then there's the Beer With The Devil/travelling road show/Number Nine/Inhuman/Blackheart & Mephisto era where Matt rebuilds his spirit and "finds himself". which is then kinda weirdly followed immediately by her last arc where matt gets total amnesia, takes on the Jack Batlin boxer ID, and swaps places with Bullseye before getting his memory back (I absolutely love that arc, but it never made sense to me why she immediately gave him amnesia after the whole road trip to find himself stuff), beating Bullseye to take back his DD persona a nd then beating Bullet to bring the run sorta full circle.

Nocenti's REAL femiNazi liberal, and real smart, and that run touched on a lot of themes and political agendas that I can easily see (and did see) turning a lot of readers off. but I loved it, even though I was and am about as far opposite on the political spectrum as you can be from where she is, because it was different, and because it was smart, and because it dared to tackle some of that complex stuff, sometimes educating as well as entertaining. it ain't for everybody. hell, it wasn't for most anybody apparently...but I loved it. even got a big multi-arc epic DD story filed away somewhere which borrows and plays off a lot of the Mephisto stuff she did.

How so?

I thought I remembered another time when they met and voila...



Except this doesn't actually count. Ten points if anyone can explain why.

It's a dream? A hoax? An imaginary story?

[3MJ]

Because after three years nothing in comics matters anymore and they reset to the same continuity?

[chap22]

Bendis Daredevil is one of the best comic runs ever written. Far superior to any other run.

not even getting into Waid, Nocenti, Smith, etc., Frank Miller says you need to shut your dirty mouth.

[chap22]

How so?

well, for example, she had a 1-or 2-issue story in the run that was essentially an indictment of livestock farming for veal/meat/etc. Bullet's kid was nothing more than an anti-nukes protest piece. etc. she threw tons of 80s-era liberal agenda stuff in there.

[Stephen Day]

Any thoughts on Kristen?

I think she's interesting. If she ends up in an actual relationship with Matt, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

[Stephen Day]

As for this issue, I agree about the fact that seeing daredevil fly around with the Surfer was just plain fun to see.