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Cas

Postby Cas » Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:07 pm

Amoebas wrote:You should know I'm with you on. Nocenti's run was damn good and I dropped Bendis's Daredevil pretty quickly.

:smt011
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:13 pm

A.R.P. wrote:This isn't the Silver Surfers fist foray into a DD comic:
http://themattmurdockchronicles.blogspo ... l-282.html

Although the last time he was in the comic it was during a pretty awful run with pretty awful art and a worse story. It's unbelievable how bad it was then.

I thought I remembered another time when they met and voila...

Image

Except this doesn't actually count. Ten points if anyone can explain why.
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alaska1125

dINGO

Postby alaska1125 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:20 pm

Amoebas wrote:I thought I remembered another time when they met and voila...

Image

Except this doesn't actually count. Ten points if anyone can explain why.

Two words: Puppet Master.
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:41 pm

alaska1125 wrote:Two words: Puppet Master.

Bzzzt - try again.
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alaska1125

dINGO

Postby alaska1125 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:35 am

Amoebas wrote:Bzzzt - try again.

Hmm...outside of the fact that it wasn't the real Surfer (rather a clay simulacrum), I guess I'm at a loss.

3MJ

Postby 3MJ » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:13 am

Bendis Daredevil is one of the best comic runs ever written. Far superior to any other run.
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Amoebas

Son of Stein

Postby Amoebas » Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:58 am

alaska1125 wrote:Hmm...outside of the fact that it wasn't the real Surfer (rather a clay simulacrum), I guess I'm at a loss.
Bingo
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HNutz

Rain Partier

Postby HNutz » Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:04 am

chap22 wrote:it is, admittedly, a really weird, and at times unevfen run. and to me it's almost like 3 runs: there's the early stuff where she plays with the "shadow lawyer" behind other attorneys fighting for poor plaintiffs against massive corporations status quo, introduces Bushwhacker and Ammo and Bullet and Typhoid Mary and then, to use your word, just completely destroys DD. then there's the Beer With The Devil/travelling road show/Number Nine/Inhuman/Blackheart & Mephisto era where Matt rebuilds his spirit and "finds himself". which is then kinda weirdly followed immediately by her last arc where matt gets total amnesia, takes on the Jack Batlin boxer ID, and swaps places with Bullseye before getting his memory back (I absolutely love that arc, but it never made sense to me why she immediately gave him amnesia after the whole road trip to find himself stuff), beating Bullseye to take back his DD persona a nd then beating Bullet to bring the run sorta full circle.

Nocenti's REAL femiNazi liberal, and real smart, and that run touched on a lot of themes and political agendas that I can easily see (and did see) turning a lot of readers off. but I loved it, even though I was and am about as far opposite on the political spectrum as you can be from where she is, because it was different, and because it was smart, and because it dared to tackle some of that complex stuff, sometimes educating as well as entertaining. it ain't for everybody. hell, it wasn't for most anybody apparently...but I loved it. even got a big multi-arc epic DD story filed away somewhere which borrows and plays off a lot of the Mephisto stuff she did.


How so?


Amoebas wrote:I thought I remembered another time when they met and voila...

Image

Except this doesn't actually count. Ten points if anyone can explain why.


It's a dream? A hoax? An imaginary story? ;)

3MJ

Postby 3MJ » Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:09 am

Because after three years nothing in comics matters anymore and they reset to the same continuity?
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chap22

Rain Partier

Postby chap22 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:53 am

Jubilee wrote:Bendis Daredevil is one of the best comic runs ever written. Far superior to any other run.


:roll:

not even getting into Waid, Nocenti, Smith, etc., Frank Miller says you need to shut your dirty Image mouth.
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chap22

Rain Partier

Postby chap22 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:56 am

HNutz wrote:How so?


well, for example, she had a 1-or 2-issue story in the run that was essentially an indictment of livestock farming for veal/meat/etc. Bullet's kid was nothing more than an anti-nukes protest piece. etc. she threw tons of 80s-era liberal agenda stuff in there.
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Stephen Day

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby Stephen Day » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:37 pm

A.R.P. wrote:Any thoughts on Kristen?


I think she's interesting. If she ends up in an actual relationship with Matt, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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Stephen Day

Wrasslin' Fan

Postby Stephen Day » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:40 pm

As for this issue, I agree about the fact that seeing daredevil fly around with the Surfer was just plain fun to see. :)

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