Herald wrote:Ask, and ye shall receive:
Fair enough. Guess all that slipped my mind. Maybe it was the presentation or the oodles of other stories I've read, but whatever.
But, as we've seen, they made more mention of the character. You (and others; I've had a similar discussion before, on the DC Comics boards) simply missed it.
Yeah, I noticed on Wikipedia that he made appearances in "Batman Family".
Even a civil discussion can result in some discomfort.
It can...but it doesn't necessitate it. The only alternative is to never acknowledge if there's a problem. I don't like going outside my comfort zone either, but there are some issues that are bigger than an individual. If it's important and someone squirms in their chair a little, so be it.
Ah, but what if they did, and you simply failed to see that they did?
Riiiiight. For the sake of argument, let's say they gave him all the good elements of a strong character that happened to be black, and it went over my head. If the writing itself was bad, then the character will still suffer. Just as a good writer can make a bad story concept work as best he can (Straczynski comes to mind), a bad writer can decimate a character, new or classic. I mean, ever read Chuck Austen's run on JLA? Yeeeesh...and those characters were around for decades...
I wouldn't call it animosity; it's really a well-earned skepticism. ...Black people can't just "let go" of the issue of race when it's being shoved in their faces all the time, even to this day. It's a persistent perception issue that white people are rarely confronted with in such a harsh manner.
True, and I don't mean that if a black guy is wrongfully treated, that he shouldn't seek some form of justice. A mentality that one is in a powerless position to make changes without resorting to extreme means is just as bad. I do think, however, that just because one or more white folk in one part of the country is distrustful and socially abusive to black people, the entirety of the white population shouldn't be made to supply recompense, be it emotional or whathaveyou.
Yeah, the only Catholics I can think of are Huntress Helena Bertinelli (who, despite wearing her cross on her late '90s costume like a good Catholic girl, killed people regularly like a BAD Catholic girl) and Cardinal Sin (who, as the name suggests, went evil).
Besides Nightcrawler (hinted at coming back! YAY!), I can think of Daredevil and Gambit. DC characters...yeah, couldn't think of any besides Huntress. Maybe Renee Montoya, if only because she's Latina and being a lesbian would provide feelings of confliction (but again, I don't know for sure). I THINK maybe Tarantula, but she forced herself on a nigh-catatonic Nightwing.
Have you met my favorite Robin, Tim Drake?? He's an expert at telling the girls who proposition him, "Let's Wait A While.
" Even in the DiDio era, they managed to get that part of him right, when he turned down "Ravager".
You're right, I forgot about Drake (my favorite Robin as well). In fact, one of the last Red Robin stories before the reboot involved one of Ra's Al Ghul's then-new kids trying to force his seed out of him. But from what I've heard about his New52 incarnation...ugh.