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Dan Didio Responds to Williams/Blackman Controversy
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That's not even counting Robinson also on Masters of the Universe and Giffen too. Or Adam Beechen leaving Batman Beyond. It isn't just fire blowing smoke. It's a freaking blaze of a fire. 
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Bendis has already tweeted each of the artists on this list trying to vulture them to work on his Marvel books next year. |
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So we agree that Marvel runs a much better editorial shop and this illusion stuff you were referring too is just a bunch of malarky?  It's not like this is an isolated incident, DC has a major problem dealing with their talent. Hab |
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J.T. Krul, George Perez, Gail Simone, Ron Marz, Chris Roberson. Rob Liefeld, Karen Berger, SImone again, Robert Vendetti Jim Zubkavich, Art Baltazar and Franco. Keith GIffen, Todd Farmer, Josh Fialkov, Andy Diggle, Tony S. Daniel, Mike Johnson, Bruce Timm had to go. Mico Suayan, James Robinson, Kevin Maguire, J.H. Williams, W. Haden Blackman, "hey, it's all their fault" said Didio! We didn't start the fire! It was always burning since the world's been turning! |
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To me, it's George Perez quitting DC after 30+ years that is the real canary in the coal mine. One can maybe argue that this writer or that is not "on board" with how a large company with a shared universe does things, how you can't expect to have your character operate in a vacuum. One can leave aside that DC does let some of its writers do just that (Wonder Woman, for example, who in her own series bears absolutely no resemblance to the WW being shown everywhere else in the DCnU). But then we come to the matter of George Perez. The guy whose art for decades defined DC. The artist who was "Mr. DC" to a whole generation of comics fans (like me). It's not like he doesn't know how to work within the confines of the shared DC Universe, or doesn't "get" their characters or how to meet deadlines or any of that. Perez isn't just a professional, he is a decades-long DC-exclusive professional. He knows what he's doing, and how to do it, as well as any creator in the industry. If anyone understands "the DC way of doing things," it should be Perez. And yet within 6 months of the New 52 starting, he was complaining about editorial and about how he was being treated. And in < 2 years, he was gone, completely from DC. I mean just think about what that means... George Perez quit working for DC. He walked away from being able to draw, and write about Wonder Woman, Superman, Supergirl, the Teen Titans, Batman, Robin, Nightwing, etc, etc. Characters he has drawn and loved for years. Characters who, in some cases, became popular precisely because he drew them (Teen Titans, being a prime example). He got up and walked away from all those characters, characters we know he loves dearly. Because of DC's management. That's really all you need to know, to realize how bad it is. |
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Like I said, the marriage thing, gay or otherwise wasn't what this was really about, (the team leaving that is). It was about CONTINUED editorial changes, last minute stuff. That isn't being "hands on", it's more like a reach around from some creepy guy in an adult theatre, (sorry, I just had to go there). It's basically showing that editorial doesn't know what it wants, and is constantly changing things because there was and is no plan to what DC is doing, (beside the Johns events mostly). As far as DC thinking that marriage makes things less interesting, I'm thinking they either never have been, or have no imagination. I know they have, and had, writers who can make that interesting. Some editorial dictate about how Bat types have to be miserable just is another example of Didio smoking too much weed IMO. You don't need to see Batman calling Robin "chum", but there's a happy medium DC seems not to get. |
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Quesada was editor of Marvel Knights before he became EIC of Marvel proper. He made characters like Daredevil and the Inhumans viable, or viable again. That proved he had the cred to be in charge. Whereas DiDio had NO experience whatsoever in comics before DC brought him in. |
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Indeed. Presented once again, for everyone's edification, the time that Dwayne McDuffie ran up against a capricious DC Editorial: 
A real writer can make practically any circumstance interesting. Too bad DC has overly controlling editors who THINK they're writers.
I'd say they should beware of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy. Readers can lose interest if everything is miserable all the time.
The ironic thing is, DC did have that medium, before Dan and the Gang showed up to ruin the party. |
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Yes, well, DC used to be fun. |
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I have no problem saying there's a) a problem and that b) Bob Harras may be at the core of it. DiDio may be just carrying that guys water/takin the bullet since he was moved upstairs. That being said, lets really look at you list in the light of "Top Talent Leaving DC". There are guys on this list that you know you can't put in the category of Maguire and Williams. Was this a place just chock full of JT Krul fans? Todd Farmer? Mike Johnson? LIEFELD???? Spencer is basically in the Marvel circle and I couldn't see him being at DC for long.Simone, Baltazar, Franco, Giffen and Venditti are still with the company and all got bigger assignments. Simone is a case where the brass slapped her editor on the back of the hand. It's a list alright but the context has to matter. Also there might to be consideration for folks DC gained and I do honestly think you might be missing some folks like Paul Cornell. I'm throwing him in there cuz he's pretty damn good and people didn't read his shit. |
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No, Dan's been chasing away talent like Chuck Dixon and PAD well before Harras was hired. |
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Yeah...losing PAD...who loves to write for the masses. Dan should be ashamed of himself. I love Dixon though. I'd like him around. |
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Agreed here as even though Quesada has his flaws he is nowhere as incompetent or inept as Didio. Quesada at his worst will be remembered for crap like Sins Past and One More Day whereas Didio will be remembered for so many fuckups that are too numerous to list here. |
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