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The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

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Re: The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

Postby thefourthman » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:28 am

The term "Galactic Counsel" does not mean that they are only from the Milky Way. It could be a counsel made up of folks from different galaxies. Joint Galactic Commission doesn't sound as cool in a comic and JGC is not as catchy as SWORD or SHIELD.

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Re: The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

Postby Stephen Day » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:21 am

thefourthman wrote:The term "Galactic Counsel" does not mean that they are only from the Milky Way. It could be a counsel made up of folks from different galaxies. Joint Galactic Commission doesn't sound as cool in a comic and JGC is not as catchy as SWORD or SHIELD.


It is more than just the name though. It's been a couple of years in which stories have been structured in ways that make it clear that the Kree and Skrulls are now within the Milky Way. For instance from this week's Avengers #19:

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The Builder fleets are already active in the Milky way and it was revealed that they are making a line for Earth and that the Kree home world of Hala is between them and Earth. Hala can't be outside the Milky Way if it's between the Builders and Earth.


Admittedly, I'm less sure about the Shi'ar as there hasn't been anything as definite as that when it comes to them. There have been bits of dialogue that suggests it though and the suspicion that the same thing has been done to them is certainly at the back of my mind.
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Re: The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

Postby Stephen Day » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:23 am

And I don't know, Joint Galactic Council sounds like a cool name to me. :D
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Re: The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

Postby Amoebas » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:27 am

Stephen Day wrote:
I wouldn't say that Earth took them down. In most of the stories the Avengers, or X-men, or whoever, only left the planet because Earth was caught in the crossfire of some big war or something like that. The goal has almost always been just to mitigate the damage being down to Earth.

To mitigate or not, it was Earthmen who stopped the million year long Kree-Skrull War.
Operation Galactic Storm ended with Earthmen executing the supreme ruler of the Kree.
Casandra Nova brought the Shi'ar to their knees.
Vulcan ruled the Shi'ar for Pete's sake.

I'd say that's taking 'taking them down' a bit (starting way back in 1965's Fantastic Four #37 when the FF shut down a coup on the Skrull Homeworld (using a Saturn rocket to leave Earth with).

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Re: The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

Postby habitual » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:43 am

The Annihilation wave dramatically reduced the size of both the Kree and Skrull empires.

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Re: The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

Postby Amoebas » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:04 am

habitual wrote:The Annihilation wave dramatically reduced the size of both the Kree and Skrull empires.


As has Galactus, the Nega-Bomb and one would assume Thanos (amoungst others)(and not discounting the wars they had between themselves for millenia).

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Re: The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

Postby Draco x » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:40 pm

Interesting facts.

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Re: The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

Postby The Old Doctor » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:54 pm

It's probably a typo and meant to imply a Council of Galaxies.

As far as I know The Kree are in the Magellanic Clouds. The Skrull in the Andromeda Galaxy and The Shi'Ar are in the Triangulum Galaxy as per the Annihilation handbook. These civilizations are spread across those galaxies but don't hold them alone or are there only. They all have turf in other galaxies such our Milky Way. But they are the three largest, most wide-spread and powerful civilizations in the Marvel cosmos. Next up are the Rigilians with our galaxy, the Badoon.. the Toad Men... and a ton of others. The Phalanx are the fourth, yet are best described as a nomadic civilization having come from either one of the smaller satellite galaxies or from without the local group. There are some thing like 50 galaxies in total for the local group. Three big ones - Andromeda, Milky Way and Triangulum. The rest are satellites of the three.

Funny thing is, for decades the Shi'Ar were never id'ed using real names for their galaxy. Just as with DC, the New Gods exist in a "Prometheum Galaxy". But now they are and it makes sense... until you think of the Rigillians, the Spartoi, etc.

Mind you, Marvel is full of lazy sloppy writers and editors who don't give a shit. So don't fear, it's go back and forth as often as the Hobgoblin being Kingsly and dead or not.

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Re: The Shrinking of Marvel's Cosmic Universe

Postby Chris » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:09 pm

I could not care less about this change. :shrug:
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