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Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby IvCNuB4 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:45 pm

An army of super villains has been built throughout The New 52 during 2013—but for what purpose? Learn about the villains that have paved the way for the world of FOREVER EVIL.


Written by: Geoff Johns, Sterling Gates
Art by: Szymon Kudranski,
Cover by: Mikel Janin
$2.99
On Sale: September 25, 2013


http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/20/justice-league-234-secret-society-preview
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Re: Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby IvCNuB4 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:58 pm

Interested in hearing what other folks thought of this issue.

99% of it is set on Earth-3 before the Syndicate gets away. In flashbacks we see Owlman's past and teases of his history there with E3 Joker. We also find out why Talon didn't make the trip to main Earth: Merry Fucking Christmas Owlman :shock: , and why The Outsider is always saying "ha" at odd times. The last two pages bring us up to when The Outsider and Atomika make it to the main Earth and Johns & Gates tie it back to a on-off scene in one of the very early "Justice League" issues.

Kudranski's art suits the mood and environment of Earth 3 quite well. A pretty enjoyable issue.
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Re: Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby HNutz » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:12 pm

I was debating on picking it up but I want to hear more opinions on it first...

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Re: Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby Victorian Squid » Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:24 pm

Great art, solid and intriguing story. 3D cover one of the better ones this week.

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Re: Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby Punchy » Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:55 am

Given that he’s the mastermind behind ‘Forever Evil’, Geoff Johns has been surprisingly absent from Villain’s Month so far, with only the Black Manta one-shot until this week. However, now he’s got 3 books co-written out this week, and they are all good. This one, co-written with Sterling Gates, isn’t really about the Secret Society, but instead focuses on Earth-3, and on Owlman and The Outsider. As such, I’d say it’s pretty essential reading if you’re following the crossover.

Most of this issue is set on Earth-3, and tells us a lot about that Universe, we see that the new Owlman is actually Thomas Wayne Jnr, which makes sense, the New 52 version of this character was of course part of the Court Of Owls, and that he and Alfred conspired to kill his parents. The whereabouts of Bruce Wayne in this universe are mysteriously unknown however, perhaps he’s the hooded figure the CSA brought with them? Everyone thinks it’s going to be Alexander Luthor, but it could be something else.

We see that Owlman has Gotham under his control, but after his version of Dick Grayson, known as Talon has discovered some shocking truth about his parent’s death, he’s been left alone. Talon is killed by Earth-3 Joker (I miss the ‘Jokester’ name, but I don’t think the Jokester would ever kill anyone) and in battle with him The Outsider is injected with Joker poison, which explains why he keeps laughing. Sensing weakness, the Gotham Police turn on Owlman, and this is when things start to go bad for the CSA. We then see the beginning of the crisis that seems to destroy Earth-3, and interestingly, it begins with Red Skies, which is of course a reference to Crisis Of Infinite Earths. Is Johns introducing a new version of the Anti-Monitor here? That would be very interesting indeed.

We then get a repeat of The Outsider and Atomica escaping to ‘our’ world, and the process of creating the Secret Society. The final page was very interesting indeed, The Outsider wants to kill the ‘real’ Dick Grayson, but Owlman wants to keep him alive, and ask him to join their cause. It seems he’s guilty over what happened to the Earth-3 Dick. With what happened to Nightwing in Forever Evil #1, it’s going to be fascinating to see what’s done with his character.

This was a very enjoyable issue, it gave some cool insight into the new version of the classic Earth-3 concept, fleshed out the main villains of Forever Evil, and actually made me interesting in stupid bloody Nightwing. The art from Szymon Kudranski, which was dark and muddy, was also pretty much perfect for a story set on the grim nightmare world that is Earth-3.

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Re: Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby IvCNuB4 » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:09 am

Punchy wrote: We then see the beginning of the crisis that seems to destroy Earth-3, and interestingly, it begins with Red Skies, which is of course a reference to Crisis Of Infinite Earths. Is Johns introducing a new version of the Anti-Monitor here? That would be very interesting indeed.


So far in the New52, Darkseid has been the multiverse conqueror. I assumed the red skies was when his forces came to Earth-3 since that also seems to be when the barriers between the Earths weakens (maybe due to boom-tube activity ? ). That might explain how The Outsider and Atomika escaped to the main Earth.
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Re: Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby IvCNuB4 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:39 pm

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Re: Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby syxxpakk » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:21 pm

I want more information the red skies.
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Re: Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby TimH » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:58 pm

I was less thrilled by John's Earth 3 depiction.

On the one hand, he shows Joker as being disgusted by the number of bystander deaths under Owlman's hunt for him, yet on the other hand, he cuts Talon up into five gift wrapped parts.

Yuck. I don't buy into that Dexter crap of psychotics protecting the world from psychotics. Dismembering and gift wrapping Talon is purely messed up. Unless it is fake, just like Snyder's Joker not actually peeling the faces off the Bat family.

Geoff Johns has a gross streak.

Also, I had to read the Talon sequence several times because I couldn't quite get the text and the pictures to jive. Couldn't figure out quite what was going on. Then, Owlman carelessly flinging Joker off a rooftop was a lamely undramatic way to take out an important figure. The "Crisis on 2 Earths" movie gave us a good death of the Jester.

Geoff Johns is kind of a multiple personality guy himself. On the one hand, he came up in the biz writing light hearted comics (Stars and Stripes, Teen Titans) that starred bright-and-sunny high-school girls; on the other hand, his violent scenes make Mark Millar's stuff look like a Tom and Jerry Cartoon.

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Re: Justice League #23.4: Secret Society

Postby IvCNuB4 » Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:29 pm

TimH wrote:On the one hand, he shows Joker as being disgusted by the number of bystander deaths under Owlman's hunt for him, yet on the other hand, he cuts Talon up into five gift wrapped parts.

Yuck. I don't buy into that Dexter crap of psychotics protecting the world from psychotics. Dismembering and gift wrapping Talon is purely messed up. Unless it is fake, just like Snyder's Joker not actually peeling the faces off the Bat family.


Except that Talon isn't a "bystander". He's Owlman's partner in Owlman's dictatorship rule over Gotham.

I would assume that despite his good intentions this Joker is just as warped by the accident that created him as the main Earth Joker.
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