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Where Did Beware the Batman Go Wrong?

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Zechs

Outhouse Editor

Postby Zechs » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:51 pm

Reading IGN's Where's My Beware the Batman? and Bleeding Cool (yes I did it on purpose this time Ricch :P ) got me thinking.

Is this show just doomed to be considered the "worst" Batman show ever? So where did it go "wrong"? Was it the very beginning with:

1.) More info was set up around the demises of Young Justice and Green Lantern: The Animated Series.
2.) The designs. A highly deformed Batman with an Alfred who looks and acts like Jason Statham and a Katana who looks like a Kato-knockoff. I mean I like Glen Murakami's designs from Teen Titans, but here they just look off in CGI.
3.) It was neutered by the creators themselves due to thinking the show was too violent.
4.) The fact the creators don't want to use Joker, Penguin, or Catwoman?
5.) People saw this "failed" proposal on an animated Bat Family show (with No Man's Land as the backdrop) and got more pissed because this didn't get approved while Beware did?

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6.) Much like "The Batman", this show had to follow in the footsteps of "Batman: The Brave and the Bold" which again reinvented the Batman animated genre. However, unlike "The Batman", "Beware" has a finer line to cross and is much closer to possible cancellation.
7.) Should this show have gone the Jeph Loeb route? Target the young folk than teens?

If this show survives you think we'll get Joker, Two-Face, Penguin, and Catwoman in Season 2?

I still want this show to survive and keep it's original premise given we have Lady Shiva, Ra's Al Ghul, and The Riddler getting a bit of the spotlight than the usual Gotham rogues. Plus that Magpie episode wasn't really bad at all. They sure as heck couldn't have done it with Catwoman around. Anarky though yeah.... they should have just kept the original concept the whole pure white motif doesn't suit the character.
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Juan Cena

DANG!

Postby Juan Cena » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:59 pm

I'd say going with CGI may have been the start. Probably made the series more expensive to produce than it probably would have been if done like a regular DCAU series.
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Draco x

biny little tird

Postby Draco x » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:25 pm

I wouldn't have minded another Batman cartoon if it had a better premise and animation myself. Plus, Warner and CN were morons for cancelling GL and YJ for this and that new Titans cartoon.
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habitual

Silly French Man

Postby habitual » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:31 pm

There have been plenty of successful CGI cartoons, this failed with mediocre writing and a poor choice of villians.

Hab
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Punchy

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Postby Punchy » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:40 pm

It didn't, it's a good show.
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Juan Cena

DANG!

Postby Juan Cena » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:48 pm

habitual wrote:There have been plenty of successful CGI cartoons, this failed with mediocre writing and a poor choice of villians.

Hab



True, but the added expense of the CGI has to be factored in when determining the profitability of the show.
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:10 pm

The is a good show. Hasn't gone much wrong IMO.

Could do without Katana though.

adamiani

Helter Skelter

Postby adamiani » Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:51 pm

The art style.

I don't mean CGI as such; I love CGI, Clone Wars was fantastic.

But Beware the Batman's CGI just wasn't very good.
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misac

Outhouse Editor

Postby misac » Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:56 pm

Punchy wrote:It didn't, it's a good show.


Yeah, it's good.

And I think they always said they'd introduce the big villains later. :smt102
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pastajoe

biny little tird

Postby pastajoe » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:23 pm

I don't think it went wrong, but like Young Justice it's too sophisticated for the young demographic the network wants to attract.
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habitual

Silly French Man

Postby habitual » Fri Oct 25, 2013 5:27 pm

Punchy wrote:It didn't, it's a good show.


Then it wouldn't be on hiatus.

Hab
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HNutz

Silly French Man

Postby HNutz » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:13 pm

habitual wrote:
Then it wouldn't be on hiatus.

Hab


Young Justice disagrees with you.
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Zechs

Outhouse Editor

Postby Zechs » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:17 pm

adamiani wrote:The art style.

I don't mean CGI as such; I love CGI, Clone Wars was fantastic.

But Beware the Batman's CGI just wasn't very good.


Well the first stuff from the Clone Wars was dated, but after GL you'd think they get this sort of thing right? Heck TMNT gets it too.
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habitual

Silly French Man

Postby habitual » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:44 pm

HNutz wrote:
Young Justice disagrees with you.


Not as strongly as you might think.

Hab
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fieldy snuts

Rain Partier

Postby fieldy snuts » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:57 pm

Young Justice was more popular with adult comic fans than it ever was with kids :lol:

Ironically the opposite can be said about Ultimate Spider-Man. And that's still around.

Make the connection.

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