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Re: The Blacklist

Postby holtom2000 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:59 pm

Hermit_Sage wrote:me and my wife also believe that she's his daughter,

but if that turns out to be true, I am going to have 1 complaint, there is no DNA tests done on him? Her DNA isn't on file? I mean how could they have these 2 people side by side for soooo damn long and never actually discover they're related.

pft he could bribe someone
but this show is great. I love the 2 second trailer for the show. more bang for the buck

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Re: The Blacklist

Postby Stephen Day » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:12 pm

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But here's the thing; her dad would have to be someone to him. Otherwise, why would he give a shit? He is a criminal, after all...


My current guess would be his brother, which would of course, make her, his niece.
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Re: The Blacklist

Postby jeremy » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:55 pm

I've kind of lost interest in this show. They try a bit too hard to make Spader some sort of badass, he has little depth. And the feds are beyond stupid. When it's that easy to outsmart them, outsmarting them isn't really a big deal.

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Re: The Blacklist

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:57 pm

jeremy wrote:I've kind of lost interest in this show. They try a bit too hard to make Spader some sort of badass, he has little depth. And the feds are beyond stupid. When it's that easy to outsmart them, outsmarting them isn't really a big deal.


Only Fed I don't like is the red head dude

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Re: The Blacklist

Postby jeremy » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:01 pm

Well, Angela is still recording it and watching it; so I still will probably see most episodes. Maybe once it gets into things more it will hook me, but so far I haven't liked any of the characters.

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Re: The Blacklist

Postby The Old Doctor » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:05 am

jeremy wrote:Well, Angela is still recording it and watching it; so I still will probably see most episodes. Maybe once it gets into things more it will hook me, but so far I haven't liked any of the characters.


I suspect that if you watch it in batches, then you will get hooked. This is a slow build show with Spader's character and there should be a pay off by season's end as well as a catch for watching next season.

I suspect the series will be very convoluted and also, given Spader's character back ground, he's more then used to counter-intelligence operations and special ops. He should be leaving the FBI look stupid as he is using them.

I do wish this was an HBO type show. It would work better with that freedom but also limited number of episodes.
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Re: The Blacklist

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Mon Nov 11, 2013 11:03 pm

He is the father...
Had an affair with some psycho it looks like, and for the Lizzy's safety gave it to her dad to look after..

The greatest scene is the Red and the hubbie had that face to face...
The hubbie knows who Red is, and Red knew the hubbie knew him...

subtle threats... great ep. A lot of moving forward.

Man, Andrew Dice Clay look like hell.

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Re: The Blacklist

Postby The Old Doctor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:28 am

BubbaKanoosh wrote:He is the father...
Had an affair with some psycho it looks like, and for the Lizzy's safety gave it to her dad to look after..

The greatest scene is the Red and the hubbie had that face to face...
The hubbie knows who Red is, and Red knew the hubbie knew him...

subtle threats... great ep. A lot of moving forward.

Man, Andrew Dice Clay look like hell.


Yeah, it does look like that. Her mom's story should be an interesting one, but also that she has half siblings from his marriage.
The hubbie scene was awesome with the threat. Reddington seems to be going into very protective mode now.


ADC was there? Didn't recognize him... wow.
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"Oh, the pointing again! They're screwdrivers! What are you going to do? Assemble a cabinet at them?"
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""Timey" what? "Timey wimey"?"

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Re: The Blacklist

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:21 pm

Dice was the plastic surgeon.

I found it interesting that the hubbie knew who Red was. Even though during the show they haven't been face to face, the obviously know who each other are.

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Re: The Blacklist

Postby Stephen Day » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:37 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:He is the father...
Had an affair with some psycho it looks like, and for the Lizzy's safety gave it to her dad to look after..

The greatest scene is the Red and the hubbie had that face to face...
The hubbie knows who Red is, and Red knew the hubbie knew him...

subtle threats... great ep. A lot of moving forward.

Man, Andrew Dice Clay look like hell.


Agreed, up until last night I thought he might be a long lost uncle or something like that, but last night they all but came out and said that he was her father.
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Re: The Blacklist

Postby The Old Doctor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:29 pm

BubbaKanoosh wrote:Dice was the plastic surgeon.

I found it interesting that the hubbie knew who Red was. Even though during the show they haven't been face to face, the obviously know who each other are.


:shock:

Red seems to be the "know all" type.
"Why are you pointing your screwdrivers like that? They're scientific instruments, not water pistols."
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Re: The Blacklist

Postby The Old Doctor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:30 pm

Stephen Day wrote:
Agreed, up until last night I thought he might be a long lost uncle or something like that, but last night they all but came out and said that he was her father.


Unless the violent gal is his sister and then...
"Why are you pointing your screwdrivers like that? They're scientific instruments, not water pistols."
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Re: The Blacklist

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:21 pm

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:shock:

Red seems to be the "know all" type.


Well, we knew Red knows the husbands deal, but the fact that the husband knows who Red is is what I find intriguing..

And the people up in the attic? We know they don't work for Red because they thought the husband worked for him, which they now know he doesn't... Are they watching the husband or lizzie?

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Re: The Blacklist

Postby Strict31 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:06 am

BubbaKanoosh wrote:He is the father...
Had an affair with some psycho it looks like, and for the Lizzy's safety gave it to her dad to look after..

The greatest scene is the Red and the hubbie had that face to face...
The hubbie knows who Red is, and Red knew the hubbie knew him...

subtle threats... great ep. A lot of moving forward.

Man, Andrew Dice Clay look like hell.


Why on earth would you assume from that scene that the hubs had any idea who Red was? If he did, why wouldn't he have spoken plainly?

The problem I have with this show is not isolated to this particular series; things that seem obvious to me in many shows are often meant to be subtle, and right now, the obvious thing is that Red is her pops. It seems so painfully obvious that it's as if they are beating the audience over the head with the mighty hammer of distraction.

In other words, it seems too obvious to be correct. But maybe it just seems too obvious to me because, hey, I've seen Star Wars. Maybe the writers think it's not obvious at all, and maybe that's the direction they wish to go. I can no longer tell with TV shows because I'm not representative of their baseline audience member.

I think about this shit as a writer, and if I were writing this story, I'd probably throw out an obvious clue to distract the audience with a premature conclusion. Or, I'd hit them with the obvious reveal, only to throw an unforeseen twist into it.

So...is Red her daddy? If so, it seems rather early to do that storywise. But maybe the writers are unaware of exactly how obvious it is.

But as I said earlier in the thread, I cannot imagine any other relationship between Red and Lizzy which would successfully cause me to give a shit. It just wouldn't have the same impact for me if he's, oh, her uncle. Or if they are both aliens from a planet that blew up and they're the last survivors. Or if they were both created in a lab using shark and tiger DNA.

...Actually...that would be quite compelling.
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Re: The Blacklist

Postby BubbaKanoosh » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:56 am

It was the double take the husband did..

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