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George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby LOLtron » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:42 pm

George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

The author has no interest in licensing out his world of A Song of Ice and Fire. (That's Game of Thrones for you show noobs)



Source: Sydney Morning Herald

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GRRM seconds before backhanding a reporter that asked him when The Winds of Winter is coming out.


George R.R. Martin seems to have to constantly confront questions, not only about when his next A Song of Ice and Fire novel will be out, but also deal with discussions about what might happen to the series if he doesn't complete them before... well, you know.  Recently he has said that he will not allow another writer to play in his sandbox when asked about licensed work.
 

Not while I'm alive, but eventually I will not be alive because Valar Morghulis – all men must men die.


He goes on to talk about his dislike for fan-fic and his belief that writers should spend their energy creating their own characters and world to write about.  He even want so far as to call fan fiction itself "lazy."  He did admit that Westeros may not die with him, (despite the many other stories out there I've seen saying differently).
 

I don't think my wife, if she survives me, will allow that either. But one thing that history has shown us is eventually these literary rights pass to grandchildren or collateral descendents, or people who didn't actually know the writer and don't care about his wishes. It's just a cash cow to them.


I could go on about the fact that I've seen too many stories talking about what will happen if Martin doesn't complete the series, saying he will not allow it to be finished by another.  But it's a ridiculous discussion for several reasons.  One, he didn't actually say that.  Two, you never know what might change over the coming years.  Three, he won't be in control of his estate once he's gone.  And four, HE WILL FINISH IT! 

Stop worrying, he's got this.

Just be aware, if you're bored while you're waiting for Winds of Winter, don't pass the time writing Game of Thrones fan-fic.  Let's not anger the man, he's running out of Starks to kill.



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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby habitual » Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:45 pm

George R.R. Martin has no business commenting on ANYONE else's work ethic.

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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby GHERU » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:03 pm

George R.R. Martin is Robert Kirkman!
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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby Chessack » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:06 pm

It's interesting how some authors hate this stuff and others view it as a compliment.

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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby COBRA Command » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:10 pm

After the last episode of the HBO series airs the majority of "GoT fans" really won't care if and when the books ever see release.
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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby The Old Doctor » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:13 pm

My response to him -

Explain Wildcards. Seriously, explain it within this context. Also, explain how you never once, not once, used other characters or concepts to form a story. Do it. Come on. Lets see if you can accomplish this.
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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby Herald » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:52 pm

Chessack wrote:It's interesting how some authors hate this stuff and others view it as a compliment.


I'd consider the former control freaks. Fanfic has no bearing on the canon material, unless the canon material's creator makes it so.

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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby outsider » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:09 pm

Unless he has a trained apprentice working directly off his notes, I don't think I want anyone else writing an entry in A Song of Ice and Fire.
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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby Frag » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:18 pm

I don't see a problem with it. Fanfic is lazy. It's also his series and he doesn't want others to license his work right now.

Both those are fair points.

What he really needs to do is stop doing loser conventions with 5 people and interviews in Australia and finish his own fucking work because that is also lazy.
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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby Herald » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:26 pm

ReturnoftheMack wrote:I don't see a problem with it. Fanfic is lazy.


And yet, you and others here read fanfic all the time; that's what current DC and Marvel comics are.

"You could say that any Batman fan writing a Batman comic is writing fan fiction."
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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby Grayson » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:47 pm

Herald wrote:And yet, you and others here read fanfic all the time; that's what current DC and Marvel comics are.

"You could say that any Batman fan writing a Batman comic is writing fan fiction."
—Neil Gaiman


Can't say that I am aware of very many fan fiction authors who actually get paid for their work though...kind of defeats the entire idea of "fan" fiction. I would say that the moment the actual owner of a particular intellectual property hires you to write for them and that work becomes canon, your work ceases to be fan fiction. :smt102
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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby thefourthman » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:55 pm

I hate your fanfic too.
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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby Frag » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:02 pm

Herald wrote:
And yet, you and others here read fanfic all the time; that's what current DC and Marvel comics are.

"You could say that any Batman fan writing a Batman comic is writing fan fiction."
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Grayson is right, but let's say you are correct.

I didn't say fanfic is bad. Watchmen is probably the greatest comic written and it was completely fanfic by your definition.

Doesn't mean it's not lazy.
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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby Herald » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:11 pm

Grayson wrote:
Can't say that I am aware of very many fan fiction authors who actually get paid for their work though...kind of defeats the entire idea of "fan" fiction. I would say that the moment the actual owner of a particular intellectual property hires you to write for them and that work becomes canon, your work ceases to be fan fiction. :smt102


"Fan fiction" is, as the phrase itself says, fiction created by fans. Doesn't really matter if you got paid for it or not.

If you are a "fan", and you wrote this "fiction", it's "fan fiction".

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Re: George R.R. Martin Hates Your Fan-Fic

Postby Mr. Log » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:12 pm

habitual wrote:George R.R. Martin has no business commenting on ANYONE else's work ethic.

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