I have to respectfully disagree. While Eternal is still just starting and I wouldn't call it epic, they're building to something here, something that's clearly been planned for a while (which not everything New52 related can say). I've liked what they've done in three out of the intended 60 issues.
That's fine with me
I don't mind when someone disagrees, and other people's enjoyment of what I don't care for is the only thing that allows me to close those books with some peace instead of grief.
I was going to say "absolute grief" and "enjoyment of what I hate"--but even I have to admit that Batman Eternal isn't nearly as awful as I was expecting.
I was only really speaking on part of the three books as they stand on their own. Not together, but literally, by themselves. Same as I said in that RHATO cover thread, I think every product should be able to stand alone, even when it's part of a series, and if it can, then you know it's a good one, if only for you personally.
I can't gauge the whole series even if it was only meant to be 4 books long, because book 4 hasn't come out yet. As much of a bitch as I can be, even I'm not willing to be unfair, in that or any other way.
I hate how it's this cliche action movie twist at every other turn in the Eternal books, but I've come to expect cheap moves like that from Snyder. That's kind of my point about it not being as bad as I was expecting--I really thought it would be like or close to how Snyder's Batman series was, with Batman #28 being an indicator due to Tynion also being on that book. And #28 was... it was just... oh damn.... it was just so. F***ing. Bad.
With three "consulting writers" on Eternal's staff, I think that helped a lot, especially John Layman. I'm not familiar with his (or the other consulting writer's works) regular style (I grew up under a rock, remember), but from what I read in a couple of Layman's books, one of them being "Aliens Inhumane Conditions" (which I loved to death--HIGHLY
recommend it) the man is damn good. He managed to make Harper Row, a huge ass Mary Sue, TOLERABLE. *
That, and Fobok is doing a freakishly amazing job on the art for Eternal. I mean--AMAZING. I look at Jim Lee's work and laugh that I can do better if I put effort into it (and not much effort either), but Jason Fabok... damn. I could match him, but all holy f***, it would about kill me. (his attempts to sexify Catwoman could have gone better, though) Even if someone hated the story more than anything else ever, Eternal is worth reading for that almighty artwork. I seriously can't wait for book 4, JUST for Fabok's work. That, and I like Gordon, and corny script or no, I hate seeing him in this position.... it's almost as bad as if someone smacked Alfred.
NO. NOT WITHOUT LOSING THEIR OWN ASS-HAT WEARING FACE. NO.
I could get into the book's flaws, but a.) take too long, b.) I'm sure no one cares (not that it would stop me if it mattered enough to me
) and c.) I'm still hoping that the potholes in the story are going to be explained in future books.
Like WTF was Catwoman doing at the MTA building? Batman was already in there long enough that she couldn't have seen him and just followed him (presumably) so was she there for some other reason besides "because it would be dramatic for her to be there when batman realized that Falcone is back"--? BS. I'm giving the books a chance to explain this, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm also not thrilled with the absolute BS in how they're handling Stephanie Brown's story, and no amount of books can explain how she can punch the gas canister on her dad's belt considering what her physical position to him was at the time.
But I've lost myself in "bitching mode" now.
Seriously, though, it's always nice to hear from someone who likes something I don't like, but it's more satisfying when it's someone I respect.
Which is most people at OH, really. (I'm insanely stupid like that
* on the note of John Layman's work, I'm currently taking the pre-reboot in chronological order (not all of it, just the series that I feel like reading) and I don't know where/when I'm going to come across any of Layman's work. I came to "Inhumane Conditions" by accident, even. I could google his wiki or something, and get a list, but it wouldn't really tell his best work, in or out of DC, plus any bastard can edit the wiki. I'd rather listen to the bastards on OH.
Not in doing what they say, just in listening to it.
If anyone has any suggestions as to Layman's best books--I'M LISTENING.