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[achilles]

About Wally...after reading why the change was made, (they admit it was a "diversity" thing), I've come to the conclusion that DC is either being run for the guys putting it out, or they're trying to guess the market rather than simply going for good stories.

Diversity's fine, but like anything else in a story, you can't force it. You have to let it develop naturally, rather than ramming it down reader's throats like DC feels it must. Frankly, it bespeaks their lack of confidence that minority characters can fly on their own. Sure, there are relatively few minority heroes in comics, but that's a natural result of the medium having been written for a certain audience for almost 70 years now. Creating new characters is the way to go, rather than changing existing characters just to meet an arbitrary management goal. Though evidently DC feels themselves not up to that task, and hence the short-sighted short cuts it feels it needs to take.

In general, it feels like they've abandoned solid story-telling in favor of cheap gimmicks. It's rather ironic that perhaps the most critically acclaimed, and certainly one of the most hyped book of the prior decade for DC, New Frontier, probably couldn't get published these days there, precisely because management's issues would get in the way.

Honestly, throwing grimdark and outreach by fiat isn't really a plan. Good stories that advance DC history mixed with new creative input and new characters are a plan. But then DC does seem to be embarrassed about its history and tradition, and thinks a return to 90s Image story-telling is the answer.

[Chessack]

In general, it feels like they've abandoned solid story-telling in favor of cheap gimmicks.

It feels like... it feels like?

There is no question... they have LONG SINCE abandoned solid story-telling for cheap gimmicks. The whole New 52 is a cheap gimmick.

The problem is that it works. We idiots buy the stuff. So they keep making money. So they have no incentive to stop doing it.

[holtom2000]

I think the new Wally will go over like a lead balloon. He has a sizable fan base.
My Wally pitch would sell more books than this lame reboot.

[achilles]

It feels like... it feels like?

There is no question... they have LONG SINCE abandoned solid story-telling for cheap gimmicks. The whole New 52 is a cheap gimmick.

The problem is that it works. We idiots buy the stuff. So they keep making money. So they have no incentive to stop doing it.

Not me. I switched to the smaller publishers since the reboot, with an occasional DC buy to check things out. Which is down massively from preboot days, even the darkest days at the end of things DC.

[sdsichero]

They black-washedhim

Is he Kanye's brother?

I feel bad about using the blackout code for that

[GOSD]

Diversity and Wally?

What are you all talking about?

[Draco x]

Things DC doesn't like:

1. Any fan who disagrees with them.
2. Any character who isn't Batman
3. Quality

4. Common Sense

Fixed.

[IvCNuB4]

:smt017

Diversity and Wally?

What are you all talking about?

See the Flash #30 preview

[GOSD]

See the Flash #30 preview

Is Wally supposed to be black?

[Lord Ice]

I think the new Wally will go over like a lead balloon. He has a sizable fan base.
My Wally pitch would sell more books than this lame reboot.

But he's gonna be the new "fan favorite character" and future booty call of Harper Row.

[doombug]

Is Wally supposed to be black?

It's a new character, he just happens to share the name wally west.

[Juan Cena]

Mark Waid

[holtom2000]

But he's gonna be the new "fan favorite character" and future booty call of Harper Row.

ugh. it feels like a focus group wrote this change. go create something new ... just awful

[GOSD]

It's a new character, he just happens to share the name wally west.

[nietoperz]

Things DC doesn't like: my money, apparently.