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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby Rob Thompson » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:15 pm

Chessack wrote:Both 300 and Watchmen were so bad, as movies, that I couldn't finish watching them. I gave up on both before they were halfway through. So I find it hard to believe these were BETTER than the source material, though I've never read either of those, either.

Now this is crazy talk. :P

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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby Chessack » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:25 pm

Rob Thompson wrote:Ludlum's Bourne series. Movies, I thought, were an improvement.


Clearly, any time I haven't both read the book and seen the movie or TV show, I could not be talking about. I've not read the Bourne books, either.

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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby misac » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:01 am

Chessack wrote:OK, here ya go... since other people may want to know I just put it here. Spoilers both if the show continues on another network, or for reading the books. You've been warned.

[Reveal] Spoiler: Click to Expand
Cadey is a lawyer in Philly, Vic’s home town. She is critically injured in a sexual assault and hospitalized. The cop assigned to the case is Vic’s younger brother (her whole family are cops). After Cadey recovers, she and little Moretti fall in love. By book 9 they are married.

In the same book, Vic flies to Philly to help Walt and they hook up. They have stayed together (sort-of) ever since (about half the series).

This sets up the very odd situation where Walt is dating his daughter’s sister-in-law.

Ferg ends up in an annex Sheriff's office (they have a secondary one in a small town on the other side of the county).

Branch, similar to the show, mistreats a suspect and Walt fires him. He's only in the first couple of books, if that.

Branch’s father is NOT involved in the books. Lucian's still his uncle but Lucian can't stand Branch and urges Walt to fire him more than once.

Lucian comes out of retirement to work as a sort of "adjunct" deputy.

Branch is replaced very early on by an awesome character who never appears on the show, a Basque named Sancho. He’s a good detective and friendly with both Walt and Vic.I kept hoping they’d put him into the show. Sancho is great.

Walt has a pet dog that he takes just about everywhere, in the books. His name is Dog. Heh.

I’m pretty sure the books do not have his wife being murdered by anyone, and certainly not Branch’s father, since that character does not appear.


The novels are awesome, and well worth reading. The TV series takes place, seemingly, before the first novel, or at least around the time of the very early novels, based on Walt’s relationships with Vic, Branch, and Ferg, all of which are more developed in the first book than they were at the beginning of the series. Walt also had dealt more completely with his wife’s death in the novels than in the show.


Cool, if I read faster I’d read them for sure.
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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby Chessack » Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:39 am

The Longmire books are pretty short... A couple hundred pages. You can blow through them pretty quickly. :)

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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby Rob Thompson » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:11 pm

Chessack wrote:The Longmire books are pretty short... A couple hundred pages. You can blow through them pretty quickly. :)

Yeah they are pretty quick reads.

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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby avengingtitan » Mon Sep 01, 2014 1:49 pm

Chessack wrote:
Well... I have neither seen nor read the Godfather. Yeah, I know, but I really hate the whole theme of the mafia and saw enough of it in other venues not to want to bother with this one.

I've seen but not read Planet of the Apes. I can maybe believe this one, because, well, it's Heston.

Both 300 and Watchmen were so bad, as movies, that I couldn't finish watching them. I gave up on both before they were halfway through. So I find it hard to believe these were BETTER than the source material, though I've never read either of those, either.


In any event, Longmire, for sure, is an outstanding TV series (I'd give it a solid 8.5 out of 10 this season, and 9/10 the first two), but the books are even better (hard as that is to believe). Perhaps because I love Vic and Henry and as good as they are on the show, they are much more enjoyable in the books.

Everything you just said is Insanity. Now Watchmen was a horrible film, not that great a book either so you're not wrong on that. The Godfather is not only a fantastic book but easily one of the best films of all time and the second one is even better. 300 is an amazing film.
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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby pastajoe » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:41 pm

I really don't understand why some of you don't like Watchmen, it's one of my favorite superhero movies. It has the gritty realism of Captain America, The Dark Knight, and Man of Steel, which is how I like superhero movies.

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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby Chessack » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:10 pm

Both 300 and Watchmen bored me to tears, frankly. Which is why halfway through, I turned them both off.

I can't comment on the Godfather as I say, because I never read it nor watched it. I'm certainly not asserting its being either good, or bad... I simply haven't seen it.

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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby avengingtitan » Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:31 am

Fans of Western drama Longmire were shocked on August 28th when A&E announced that they had decided to cancel the series, despite the show’s phenomenal ratings and huge audience. At first the network claimed they were cancelling Longmire because they were scaling back on their drama line-up, and then a press statement revealed that the cancellation occurred because the network didn’t own the series and moving towards all in-house productions. But, the truth has finally come out and it looks like Longmire was axed simply because it’s 5.6 million viewers were “too old.” Ouch! An older viewer demographic doesn’t get the top dollar advertising reserved for the 18-45 slice of supposedly bigger, or at least discriminating spenders. Nice, so no matter that Longmire was A&E’s # 2 show in terms of viewers and # 1 ever scripted drama but because the audience was a bit older on average the greedy shortsighted network cancelled it!

The October 6th edition of GLOBE Magazine reveals, “The cast of A&E crime drama Longmire are crying foul over the show being axed – because it’s viewers were too old! Despite high ratings the TV hit was suddenly cancelled after three seasons – and now outraged fans are trying to save it!” According to the magazine’s inside source, “the cast [of Longmire] was told that the network is trying to reach a younger audience.” Longmire executive producer Greer Shepard is reportedly devastated by A&E’s cancellation, and angrily told GLOBE, “You don’t just flush 5.6 million people!”

We know from experience how devastating it can be to have one of your favorite series cancelled, but at the end of the day money, talks. Networks are paid by sponsors for commercial spots during television shows, and the sponsors won’t pay the big bucks for commercial time unless the shows are scoring in the key demos, 18-34, and 18-45 year-olds. Longmire may have 5.6 million viewers, but they apparently were not falling in to the key demos that top-dollar advertisers were looking for.

Regardless, there is still hope for Longmire fans. The studio that owns the crime drama, Warner Horizon, is currently shopping around for another network to air Longmire. And, rumor has it USA is close to inking a deal.
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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby outsider » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:27 am

pastajoe wrote:I really don't understand why some of you don't like Watchmen, it's one of my favorite superhero movies. It has the gritty realism of Captain America, The Dark Knight, and Man of Steel, which is how I like superhero movies.
The credit sequence with the Bob Dylan song was one of the best I've seen in any superhero film.

Overall, I liked the film, but some bits remained too faithful to the original while other parts were changed too much for my taste. I don't have a problem with getting rid of the alien squid, but I still don't see how making Dr. Manhattan the patsy makes the world sympathetic towards the United States.

Another change is using an actor in great shape for Nite Owl. Patrick Wilson was great, but Nite Owl being out of shape and supposedly past his prime was a huge part of his story arc (including associative sexual impotence).
But I did LOL at the flame ejaculation sequence, so what do I know. :lol:

Watchmen should have been an HBO-style miniseries. I'm more and more in favor of smaller-screen adaptations. Hopefully Daredevil and Heroes-for-Hire will prove me right.
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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby misac » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:39 am

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Oh goddammit!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU A&E!!!!!!!


Come on CBS, this is right up your alley.
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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby b.lumpkin » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:52 am

avengingtitan wrote:
Oh goddammit!!!!!!!! FUCK YOU A&E!!!!!!!

I can't imagine a world where 18-34 year olds watch a lot of A&E

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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby Rob Thompson » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:00 pm

b.lumpkin wrote:I can't imagine a world where 18-34 year olds watch a lot of A&E

These days? I cannot imagine many folks outside that age group watching that channel.
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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby outsider » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:20 pm

b.lumpkin wrote:I can't imagine a world where 18-34 year olds watch a lot of A&E

It's quickly becoming a world where most of us don't give a fuck about the network, just the actual show. :smt102
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Re: A&E cancels Longmire

Postby Johnny Smith » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:28 pm

b.lumpkin wrote:I can't imagine a world where 18-34 year olds watch a lot of A&E


Weren't they driving up the Duck Dynasty numbers?

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