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Postby Benderbrau » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:38 pm

avengingtitan wrote:Personally I wish they would tell stories from AFTER Empire. Theres a lot more fertile ground there.

That and IMO I find rooting for a group of "heroes" that will inevitably commit mass genocide just a tad creepy. Remember admirable Commander Gree from the episodes "Bombad Jedi" and "Cloak of Darkness"? Three years later Yoda will violently decapitate him when he follows order 66 and tries to shoot the jedi in the back.
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Postby Strict31 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:57 pm

Benderbrau wrote:That and IMO I find rooting for a group of "heroes" that will inevitably commit mass genocide just a tad creepy. Remember admirable Commander Gree from the episodes "Bombad Jedi" and "Cloak of Darkness"? Three years later Yoda will violently decapitate him when he follows order 66 and tries to shoot the jedi in the back.


You're like me.

And because of that, I must now destroy you.

It's really a downer to know that in probably as little time as a year, Anakin will go from rescuing people to charbroiling younglings on his lightsaber. It's a downer to know that he'll probably kill "Snips". It's a downer to know that, despite all she's done to help them, Aayla's clonetroopers will still mercilessly, and without hesitation shoot her in the back until she's dead. And then continue shooting her.

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It's distressing that they want kids to see these fuckers as heroes. I remember playing Battlefronts 2, and it features the 501st throughout the Clone Wars. Towards the end of the game, they transition from Clonetroopers to Stormtroopers, and then, your missions start revolving around murdering populations of planets and abhorrent shit.

I'm sitting there like, "Man, this fucking sucks shit." It's gone from Star Wars to Star War-Crimes. Playing the bad guys has an appeal, I guess. But when the bad guys are being portrayed as heroes, then there's something wrong.
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Postby Zechs » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:20 am

Benderbrau wrote:That and IMO I find rooting for a group of "heroes" that will inevitably commit mass genocide just a tad creepy. Remember admirable Commander Gree from the episodes "Bombad Jedi" and "Cloak of Darkness"? Three years later Yoda will violently decapitate him when he follows order 66 and tries to shoot the jedi in the back.


Or those "Rookies" will belong to the fable or infamous 501 Legion. :-D
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Postby Strict31 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:31 am

Zechs wrote:Or those "Rookies" will belong to the fable or infamous 501 Legion. :-D


501st were murderers just like any other Clone battalion. Battlefronts 2 is just as much canon as any other Expanded Universe source. And in that game, they killed the fuck out of some innocent muthafuckas.
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Postby Benderbrau » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:34 am

Strict31 wrote:501st were murderers just like any other Clone battalion. Battlefronts 2 is just as much canon as any other Expanded Universe source. And in that game, they killed the fuck out of some innocent muthafuckas.

There are some really creepy moments in Battlefront 2 when you hear the 501st members say things during the cut scenes about "wiping out those dirty Wookies" and such. It just makes you feel a little uneasy.
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Postby Zechs » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:35 am

Strict31 wrote:501st were murderers just like any other Clone battalion. Battlefronts 2 is just as much canon as any other Expanded Universe source. And in that game, they killed the fuck out of some innocent muthafuckas.



Yeah, the only true good they ever did was putting a stop to a possible second Clone War from happening.
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Postby Zechs » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:36 am

Benderbrau wrote:There are some really creepy moments in Battlefront 2 when you hear the 501st members say things during the cut scenes about "wiping out those dirty Wookies" and such. It just makes you feel a little uneasy.


Yeah and when they talked about wiping the Jedi out.
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Postby Benderbrau » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:39 am

Strict31 wrote:It's a downer to know that he'll probably kill "Snips".

A million imaginary space bucks says that they'll never kill Snips. They'll make her be among the few Jedi that survive the purge.
Strict31 wrote:It's distressing that they want kids to see these fuckers as heroes.

Yeah, I'm thinking of calling Lucas tomorrow. I have a great idea for a cartoon. It revolves around the adventures of the Nazi party. But the stories will all take place from a couple of years before they start killing Jews. So naturally, it'll be cool for kids to watch it and root for them. :roll:
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Postby Zechs » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:40 am

But then she have adventures in the EU and the invetaible her meeting Anakin as Vader.
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Postby Benderbrau » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:44 am

Zechs wrote:But then she have adventures in the EU and the invetaible her meeting Anakin as Vader.

Makes sense. It worked for Jar Jar after all...
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Postby Strict31 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:47 am

Benderbrau wrote:A million imaginary space bucks says that they'll never kill Snips. They'll make her be among the few Jedi that survive the purge.


I think it's at least possible she'll survive the purge, but there needs to be an act that drives Anakin right over the edge. The straw for the camel's back.

The problem with the show is that Ahsoka is having a very positive effect on Anakin. She's making him more sensitive, more willing to sacrifice of himself for others.

basically, her presence in his life takes him 180 degrees away from the course of a man who can turn to the dark side in five minutes.

But...

if she dies in the war...or appears to die, that will be yet another woman in his life he couldn't save. The horrors of the war don't seem to have had any sort of impact on his state of mind, so it's got to be a personal tragedy. Something that keeps him from being able to let go of personal attachments.

So, Snips has to die so that Anakin can be turned. So that he can be vulnerable to his fears about Padme. She has to die so that his state of mind can be sufficiently weakened.

Or, at least, she has to seem to die.

Yeah, I'm thinking of calling Lucas tomorrow. I have a great idea for a cartoon. It revolves around the adventures of the Nazi party. But the stories will all take place from a couple of years before they start killing Jews. So naturally, it'll be cool for kids to watch it and root for them. :roll:


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Postby Benderbrau » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:49 am

Strict31 wrote:Black Hitler likes the cut of your jib.

He can see I'm not wearing pants right now?
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Postby Strict31 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:52 am

Benderbrau wrote:He can see I'm not wearing pants right now?


No.

But the Black SS is aware of your activities and will need to see your papers.
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Postby Zechs » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:53 am

Benderbrau wrote:Makes sense. It worked for Jar Jar after all...
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Postby sdsichero » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:28 pm

Finally more info...

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/100/1004181p1.html

Clone Wars Duplicated
Cartoon Network's first season on DVD and BD.
by David McCutcheon

July 16, 2009 - On November 3, 2009, Lucasfilms and Warner Home Video will release Star Wars: The Clone Wars – The Complete Season One on DVD and Blu-ray.

This four-disc set will contain all 22 episodes from the first season of Cartoon Network's hit Star Wars series. It will contain bonus materials and extra features, and the DVD will be available for the MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) of $44.98, while the Blu-ray will be available at the MSRP of $59.99.

The Star Wars: The Clone Wars – The Complete Season One releases will feature the following bonus materials:

* Seven Director's Cut Episodes
* 22 Episodic Featurettes that go behind-the-scenes with Supervising Director Dave Filoni and crew about the making-of each episode
* 64 page production journal that includes early sketches, artist notes, and concept art from each episode from Season One
* The Jedi Temple Archives: An extensive database exploring test footage, early concept art, 3-D character and object turnarounds and early animation. The Archives is a rare look at the assets in various stages of creation for The Clone Wars, with a wealth of surprises and never-before seen moments sprinkled throughout. (Blu-ray exclusive)
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