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Review Group Week 165 - WOLVERINE: WEAPON X #1

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Postby thefourthman » Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:54 pm

doombug wrote:But the problem is he said he's not going to read the book, he can skip a week. Don't writ a review for something else, just skip the week and you wont be penalized for it.

but I wanna read his review.... :(
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Postby ****** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:00 pm

doombug wrote:But the problem is he said he's not going to read the book, he can skip a week. Don't writ a review for something else, just skip the week and you wont be penalized for it.


I don't really see that as a problem. Pre-spin-off we posted reviews for other stuff in thread and this isn't really anything all that different. As long as he labels it clearly as being a review for whatever it is, no one has to read it if they don't want to and if he wants to take the time to do it that's his decision.

However, it probably would be read by more people/generate more discussion about Savage (Not) She-Hulk if he also posts it in a new thread.

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Postby ****** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:03 pm

MrBlack wrote:Just posted my review for Flash: Rebirth #1 on the other thread. I'll try to do a review of this one soon, but I just moved this weekend and I don't have internet yet. The Verizon guy is supposed to be out tomorrow, but who knows if that will happen.


Thanks for the heads up. 8)

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Postby Starlord » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:09 pm

48THRiLLS wrote:I second this plea.


I'll third it, but it's your week, you should pick what you want us to read.

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Postby McKegan » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:23 am

Phonogram Singles Club: #2, please.

Oh, and I read this week's pick but don't think I'll really have much to add besides to say I like Garney more and more every book of his I get.

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Postby malcolm reynolds » Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:48 am

This week I would have chose either she-hulk or Wolverine so I'm interested in reading a review on she-hulk too. I love van lente and jason aaron's work but this week it sounds like two misses on two new books. Just picked this up, will review over the weekend :D

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Postby Alex Delarge » Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:17 pm

I decided to just skip this week. I wrote a review for Savage She-Hulk in the newstand, take a look all who are interested.
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Postby Punchy » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:18 pm

I liked this a lot, it was a little slight maybe, but Aaron has Wolverine's voice down very well, the art was fantastic, and the set-up is interesting.

Plus, I'm gay for Maverick.

I think you guys are letting outside influences affect your review, who cares if it's there to tie into the movie or if there are 2 other unrelated Wolverine titles?

As long as it's good.

Review to come at the weekend, during a chocolate haze.

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Postby thefourthman » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:40 pm

Punchy wrote:I liked this a lot, it was a little slight maybe, but Aaron has Wolverine's voice down very well, the art was fantastic, and the set-up is interesting.

Plus, I'm gay for Maverick.

I think you guys are letting outside influences affect your review, who cares if it's there to tie into the movie or if there are 2 other unrelated Wolverine titles?

As long as it's good.

Review to come at the weekend, during a chocolate haze.

If it's good yeah. But there's nothing here and when he got to the facility and there were movie vats laying all over the place it became painfully clear what this book is all about. I have no doubt that Aaron will give us a good story, but I would have rather had a double size issue that had a point for existing.

Problems with the book aren't just outside factors though. There are 28 pages of story here that could have easily been told in 5 or 6. I have no clue who Maverick is, so seeing him did little to nothing for me.

And regardless of how you feel about the outside influences, there are four ongoing Wolverine titles now. That is glut and it is stupid. We are sure to get more minis and one shots as well, especially next month. I would have been much happier with a larger format book that contained all the titles.

Marvel doesn't believe that format will work though and will point their finger to Spider-Man Family when they make their case. But that book has to compete with Amazing (x3 + a month), Ultimate, Marvel Adventures, and what ever mini-series/one shots they want to produce. It is more expensive and has reprints in it. Imagine how well the same book would sell for a dollar more, if it had all those other titles in it and competed against nothing.

No, when you already have three ongoing titles, the fourth one needs to rock your world, or else it is just glut. They pulled it off with Avengers, DC has the right idea with Superman, but this was unneeded, ultimately inconsiquential (and we already have a Wolvie book like that, it's called origins)... this book is obviously about cash and I can't hate Aaron for taking it, but I can hate Marvel for allowing it or even worse encouraging it.

It's not bad, it is just not rock em sock em great and unfortunately for it, that is what it needed to do. If I were scoring it based on solely outside influences it would probably get a 2. It is well crafted, just less than substantive and seems to be non-essential, in this market and at it's price point, that is a bad thing. My official review won't discuss price point, because that should not hold back a book and is also a topic that has been discussed to death, but to be a very obvious gimmick towards the movie audience marketed solely to the comic fan, it is a very disappointing project. Marvel should bank on the movie and this isn't necessarily a bad way to do it... but they should have a picture of the cover on every Wolverine Origins poster, they should be putting the comic locator number in every trailer. If not, then it should rock just like Fraction's Iron Man does.
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Postby Punchy » Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:29 pm

But what does all that have to do with the quality of the comic? I don't care if there is Origins out there, I don't read it.

This is the first time I've read Wolverine solo in any ongoing capacity, the only other is Millar's stories.

There are 25 Batman books a month, it doesn't stop a new series, if it's good from being worth it.

Besides, one of the Wolverine books is changing over to a different character soon, so he'll have 2 ongoings in the MU and one young readers book.

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Postby Hermit_Sage » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:11 am

This is in my box-o-comics that will come at the end of the month.

so I wont be double dipping and buying another copy now.

so I pass.


but YES! another wolverine ongoing! which kinda sucks though since Wolverine will go to Daken for a while, and Origins has a set number to the run :(

the MU needs more wolverine.
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Postby MrBlack » Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:18 am

I flipped through this one in the store. It was an interesting setup (I'd like to know what's up with the radioactive green claws on the new guys), but, as Wolverine himself admitted in the story, we've been through this song and dance before. The story was well excecuted by Aaron, and the art was nice, but it just didn't grab me at all.

Overall: 5
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Postby thefourthman » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:20 am

so next week's pick...
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THE STRANGE ADVENTURES OF H.P. LOVECRAFT #1 (of 4)

story MAC CARTER, art TONY SALMONS, cover ADAM BYRNE

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When an ancient curse transforms young H.P. Lovecraft’s darkest nightmares into reality, the timid writer becomes both an unwitting god of destruction and the only person who can battle the evil he’s unleashed into the world. One part biography, one part horror pulp, one part fugitive thriller and you have... one weird tale indeed.
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Postby Chubbles » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:30 am

Wolverine Review

I been M.I.A. for awhile bc i've fallen way behind in my reading but I'm back and hope to use this long weekend to catch up.

I liked this issue but as Fourthman was saying it's not different enough nor really bringing that much of an exciting concept to make it stand out. Jason Aaron is a very, very good writer and I have no doubt this book will be the best of the Wolverine ongoings but is that enough to make it a great read? Probably not. I liked the art and the dialogue was pretty good. I liked the scene with Wolverine on the subway and I haven't seen Maverick since probably the 90's if I recall correctly. This will no doubt be a great jumping on point for someone who sees the Wolverine movie and gets back into comics but for those of us regulars it's probably not enough for us to get excited about.

Story 6.5
Art 6.5
Overall 6.5

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Postby Chubbles » Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:31 am

Great pick 4thman, this was definitely not on my radar for next week and since it's a relatively small week for me I'll gladly pick this up.

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