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by **Juan Cena** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:10 am

Aaron_W wrote:I just put the Islanders on there to fuck with you. Tampa has a cup but do they have a real fanbase? Nashville should be gone too.

Nashville's bigger problem is lack of business sector support. The Thrashers have that.

by **cyphon** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:11 am

Aaron_W wrote:I just put the Islanders on there to fuck with you. Tampa has a cup but do they have a real fanbase? Nashville should be gone too.

The Islanders need a new arena, that's all. It's a BIG all though.

Tampa sort of has a fan base, but if you moved the team tomorrow, no one would care. They would get on with their lives. Same as in Phoenix, Atlanta, Nashville, etc.

by **pastajoe** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:38 am

VinnyPic wrote:The New York Islanders are the most successful franchise outside the original 6.

Hell, they've won as many cups as half the O-6.

They aren't going anywhere, sorry.

Tampa has a Cup. I don't think they disappear.

I can see Nashville going away.

They WERE successful. So were the Oilers and Maple Leafs at one time. But you can't live in the past. And they aren't successful as far as making money, which is the bottom line according to their owner. They COULD be successful, but they said the same thing in Quebec and Winnipeg, but they had to move because they couldn't get new arenas built.

It's a shame how the Islanders have become the red-headed stepchild in NY, but unless they get a new arena soon, it's totally realistic that they could move. The full circle; the Devils started in KC, and now the Islanders could go to KC. Las Vegas is another possiblity.

by **cyphon** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:40 am

pastajoe wrote:They WERE successful. So were the Oilers and Maple Leafs at one time. But you can't live in the past. And they aren't successful as far as making money, which is the bottom line according to their owner. They COULD be successful, but they said the same thing in Quebec and Winnipeg, but they had to move because they couldn't get new arenas built.

It's a shame how the Islanders have become the red-headed stepchild in NY, but unless they get a new arena soon, it's totally realistic that they could move. The full circle; the Devils started in KC, and now the Islanders could go to KC. Las Vegas is another possiblity.

It pisses me off to no end that Tiny Gary would rather put teams in Las Vegas and Kansas City than put a team in Canada. All because of his precious non-existent US television deal.

by **Juan Cena** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:43 am

pastajoe wrote:They WERE successful. So were the Oilers and Maple Leafs at one time. But you can't live in the past. And they aren't successful as far as making money, which is the bottom line according to their owner. They COULD be successful, but they said the same thing in Quebec and Winnipeg, but they had to move because they couldn't get new arenas built.

It's a shame how the Islanders have become the red-headed stepchild in NY, but unless they get a new arena soon, it's totally realistic that they could move. The full circle; the Devils started in KC, and now the Islanders could go to KC. Las Vegas is another possiblity.

Funny, I thought the Devils moved from Colorado?

by **Spidey-Man** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:44 am

cyphon wrote:The Islanders need a new arena, that's all. It's a BIG all though..

If this Lighthouse thing ever gets done.....

I am right there.

and they've been talking forever

by **vinnypic** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:46 am

pastajoe wrote:They WERE successful. So were the Oilers and Maple Leafs at one time. But you can't live in the past. And they aren't successful as far as making money, which is the bottom line according to their owner. They COULD be successful, but they said the same thing in Quebec and Winnipeg, but they had to move because they couldn't get new arenas built.

It's a shame how the Islanders have become the red-headed stepchild in NY, but unless they get a new arena soon, it's totally realistic that they could move. The full circle; the Devils started in KC, and now the Islanders could go to KC. Las Vegas is another possiblity.

Season Ticket Sales are up HUGE with the win of the #1 pick, look it up. NHL just had a write up about it the other day.

If they fuck up that draft pick though, they'll be a lot of disappointment.

by **Juan Cena** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:49 am

VinnyPic wrote:Season Ticket Sales are up HUGE with the win of the #1 pick, look it up. NHL just had a write up about it the other day.

If they fuck up that draft pick though, they'll be a lot of disappointment.

Too bad they didn't have it when Crosby was available. I recall Woody Page saying the NHL should've fixed the draft to where a NY team picked first after the lockout.

by **vinnypic** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:52 am

The Nacireman wrote:Too bad they didn't have it when Crosby was available. I recall Woody Page saying the NHL should've fixed the draft to where a NY team picked first after the lockout.

Tavares could be that.

He and Okposo won't be Ovechkin/Semin or even Malkin/Crosby.

They could EASILY be Kane/Toews though. And that's fine by me.

Add in the young guys like Nielsen, Bergenhiem, Bailey, Joensuu, Comeau, etc. and our rebuild looks very similar to the plan Chicago took.

I think that's a sound strategy.

by **cyphon** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:53 am

The Nacireman wrote:Too bad they didn't have it when Crosby was available. I recall Woody Page saying the NHL should've fixed the draft to where a NY team picked first after the lockout.

Well, look at how drafting Crosby revived the Penguins. And that was before they knew Malkin might be an even better player!

by **pastajoe** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:55 am

cyphon wrote:It pisses me off to no end that Tiny Gary would rather put teams in Las Vegas and Kansas City than put a team in Canada. All because of his precious non-existent US television deal.

I also would rather have teams in Quebec and Winnipeg where they have more rabid fans.

The Nacireman wrote:Funny, I thought the Devils moved from Colorado?

Kansas City Scouts-->Colorado Rockies-->New Jersey Devils

by **Juan Cena** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:55 am

cyphon wrote:Well, look at how drafting Crosby revived the Penguins. And that was before they knew Malkin might be an even better player!

Exactly.

Having Crosby in NY would've given the NHL a higher profile.

by **vinnypic** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:56 am

Joe, Quebec was the worst run franchise in the history of pro sports.

They make the Clippers look like the Yankees.

THEY SOLD DRAFT PICKS.

by **pastajoe** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:56 am

The Nacireman wrote:Too bad they didn't have it when Crosby was available. I recall Woody Page saying the NHL should've fixed the draft to where a NY team picked first after the lockout.

Like when the NBA put the Knick's card in the refrig so the guy would know which one to pick first so they could get Patrick Ewing.