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Postby ****** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:08 pm

Zechs wrote:He's a spoiled rich kid brat who thinks his shit doesn't stink. Also given he thinks he is the son of Batman he deserves all the stuff being in that lifestyle gives. And he thinks he's a natural for it. The boy needs some lessons in humility. And a crowbar to the face.


And?

I'm not really seeing any negatives here. He doesn't have to be likable to be a good character.
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Postby Zechs » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:09 pm

amlah6 wrote:And?

I'm not really seeing any negatives here. He doesn't have to be likable to be a good character.


He ran over an ambulance without even knowing it was the Joker and Alfred didn't even bat an eye to that!

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Postby ****** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:10 pm

Zechs wrote:You are way too kind fourthman. Way too kind. To me it was average with an awesome beginning hampered by Damien then later on by both him and Pyg. Mr Toad though is awesome.


You didn't like Pyg? :shock:

He's a grown man in a pig mask turning people into human dolls! What's not to love?!?!?! :lol:
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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:11 pm

Zechs wrote:You are way too kind fourthman. Way too kind. To me it was average with an awesome beginning hampered by Damien then later on by both him and Pyg. Mr Toad though is awesome.

wait, you are complaining about Pyg and Damien and then praising the fact that Morrison ripped off the Disneyfied version of a character from Wind of the fucking Willows?
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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:11 pm

Zechs wrote:He ran over an ambulance without even knowing it was the Joker and Alfred didn't even bat an eye to that!

and that makes him a bad character how?

see you would just hate Young Liars.
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Postby Zechs » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:21 pm

thefourthman wrote:and that makes him a bad character how?

see you would just hate Young Liars.


It could become his constant character quality. He'll be like Jason Todd. One-note. Nothing more.
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Postby Zechs » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:23 pm

thefourthman wrote:wait, you are complaining about Pyg and Damien and then praising the fact that Morrison ripped off the Disneyfied version of a character from Wind of the fucking Willows?


No Mr Toad is a literary character. Just cause he appeared in one frigging Disney movie and some cartoons you have to Disneyfied him. Well so if we're going into that logic so was the Mad Hatter. :P
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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:25 pm

Zechs wrote:No Mr Toad is a litery character. Just cause he appeared in one frigging Disney movie and some cartoons you have to Disneyfied him. Well so if we're going into that logic so was the Mad Hatter. :P

what part of Disneyfied version of Wind of the Fucking Willows did you not understand, or are you agreeing with me? :?
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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:26 pm

Zechs wrote:It could become his constant character quality. He'll be like Jason Todd. One-note. Nothing more.

so you missed the bit where he suped up the batmobile? or how even Alfred sees some of his dad in him?
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Postby Zechs » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:27 pm

thefourthman wrote:what part of Disneyfied version of Wind of the Fucking Willows did you not understand, or are you agreeing with me? :?


I'm saying is the be all and end all isn't the Disney version like that Hatter.
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Postby Zechs » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:28 pm

thefourthman wrote:so you missed the bit where he suped up the batmobile? or how even Alfred sees some of his dad in him?


And rubbed it every moment he could in Dick's face.
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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:29 pm

Zechs wrote:I'm saying is the be all and end all isn't the Disney version like that Hatter.

My point was you are praising an obvious riff of the Disney version (regardless of his origins, this character is meant to resonate with those who have seen the disney film)... what you are talking about now, I have no clue.

Did someone, switch every other page of your copy with pages from RIP?
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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:30 pm

Zechs wrote:And rubbed it every moment he could in Dick's face.

but my points so that he is not as you said a "one dimensional character" as Jason wasn't pre-crisis, precrisis, Jason was very much a homeless version of Tim.
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Postby Zechs » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:37 pm

thefourthman wrote:but my points so that he is not as you said a "one dimensional character" as Jason wasn't pre-crisis, precrisis, Jason was very much a homeless version of Tim.


But Jason has become one note since his return to the living.
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Postby Zechs » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:39 pm

thefourthman wrote:My point was you are praising an obvious riff of the Disney version (regardless of his origins, this character is meant to resonate with those who have seen the disney film)... what you are talking about now, I have no clue.

Did someone, switch every other page of your copy with pages from RIP?


So the frigging Hatter was abit of a riff of the Disney character too. What's the point?

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