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ReviewGroup Week176 - DARK AVENGERS/UNCANNY X-MEN: UTOPIA #1

Postby ****** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:50 am

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Will this post this time? Let's see...

Yes?

And while I'm a bit OH irritated, we need longer thread titles. Sure Nurama had it's deficiencies, but the 255 character thread titles were an endless source of amusement and I miss them.

Okay then...

I hate hot weather. HATE it. It's not even 9am here and it's already 85 degrees outside. There's no way I'm surviving the Summer. King Impulse is going to have to take over running the thread sooner than he thought.

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Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men: Utopia #1
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WRITER: Matt Fraction
PENCILS: Marc Silvestri

The Dark Avengers take on the Uncanny X-Men! Kicking off the 6-part crossover event, rising star Matt Fraction (UNCANNY X-MEN, INVINCIBLE IRON MAN) is joined by X-artist supreme Marc Silvestri (X-MEN: MESSIAH COMPLEX, CIVIL WAR: THE INITIATIVE ONE-SHOT) to bring you a story that shakes the foundations of the Marvel Universe. When mutant riots break out in San Francisco, Norman Osborn declares martial law and sends the Dark Avengers in to quell the riots and take down the X-Men. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Don’t miss the first Avengers/X-Men crossover in over 15 years! Rated T …$3.99


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Justice League: Cry for Justice #1
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Written by James Robinson
Art and covers Mauro Cascioli

What brings a team together? Justice! Batman and Martian Manhunter have been slaughtered. But he's not the only hero to fall at the hands of villains. The murder has to stop, and it's time to take the fight to the bad guys! Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Supergirl, Atom, Shazam, Congorilla and Starman unite in a cry for justice!

This 6-part miniseries from James Robinson (STARMAN, SUPERMAN) and rising star artist Mauro Cascioli (TRIALS OF SHAZAM) pushes our heroes to the brink and beyond as evil can no longer be tolerated to win. But when Prometheus plans his revenge on not only the heroes, but on the very places they call home, will this new team be ready to pay the cost for the justice they seek? This time it's personal – and it'll only get more bloody before it's over!

DC Universe | 40pg. | Color | $3.99 US


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ThrillHouse
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Each Tuesday I will putting together all of our reviews and we will have our very own article on the front page of The Outhouse! If you would like for your review to be included, please try to have it posted by the end of day on Monday.

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[spoiler="Not a"]001. Daredevil #82 - 8.13
002. Exiles #77 - 6.29
003. Jonah Hex #5 - 6.26
004. American Virgin #1 - 7.7
005. Birds of Prey #92 - 6.41
006. Squadron Supreme #1 - 7.66
007. Blue Beetle #1 - 5.95
008. Aquaman: SoA #41 - 6.67
009. DMZ #6 - 7.65
010. Captain America #17 - 7.43
011. Thing #6 - 7.03
012. Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #8 - 7.68
013. Cable & Deadpool #28 - 7.45
014. Fell #5 - 8.81
015. X-Factor #7 - 7.84
016. My Inner Bimbo #1 - 6.38
017. Wonder Woman #1 - 7.3
018. Green Lantern Corps #1 - 5.65
019. Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #1 - 5.38
020. New Avengers #21 - 6.12
021. Detective Comics #821 - 8.05
022. Ultimate Spider-Man #97 - 7.86
023. Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters #1 - 4.17
024. Batman #655 - 7.69
025. Usagi Yojimbo #95 - 6.41
026. Sonic the Hedgehog #165 - 6.5
027. The Boys #1 - 7.3
028. Heroes for Hire #1 - 6.25
029. Ultimate Fantastic Four #33 - 5.75
030. Local #6 - 9.1
031. Thunderbolts #106 - 6.14
032. Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. #8 - 8.34
033. True Story, Swear to God #1 - 7.69
034. Criminal #1 - 7.63
035. Fables #1/#54 - 8.83
036. WildCats #1 - 6.51
037. Action Comics #844 - 7.22
038. Incredible Hulk #100 - 7.5
039. Franklin Richards, Son of a Genius: Happy Franksgiving - 4.32
040. Texas Chainsaw Massacre #1 - 4.34
041. Punisher War Journal #1 - 6.54
042. Immortal Iron Fist #1 - 7.35
043. Spider-Man: Reign #1 - 4.79
044. The Spirit #1 - 7.67
045. New Avengers: Illuminati #1 - 7.33
046. Winter Soldier: Winter Kills - 8.27
047. Amazing Spider-Man #537 - 6.94
048. Thunderbolts #110 - 6.75
049. Red Menace #3 - 7.43
050. Moon Knight #7 - 5.86
051. Ultimate Civil War Spider-Ham Crisis #1 - 6.21
052. Action Comics Annual #10 - 7.87
052. All New Atom #8 - 6.98
052. Dark Tower #1 - 8.61
052. Fantastic Four: The End #5 - 8.55
052. Fell #7 - 9.03
052. newuniversal #3 - 8.13
052. Pirates of Coney Island #4 - 7.93
052. Ultimate Spider-Man #105 - 7.7
052. Uncanny X-Men #483 - 6.47
053. Batman #663 - 3.59
054. Civil War #7 - 7.2
055. Runaways #24 - 9.01
056. Punisher MAX #45 - 7.47
057. Blade #7 - 6.08
058. Army@Love #1 - 6.38
059. Blue Beetle #13 - 6.4
060. Avengers: The Initiative #1 - 7.27
061. Nova #1 - 6.92
062. Cable & Deadpool #39 - 5.92
063. Catwoman #66 - 7.06
064. 52 Week Fifty-Two - 7.15
065. Countdown #51 - 6.8
066. Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #12 - 6.31
067. Captain America #26 - 8.28
068. Witchblade #106 - 5.81
069. Invincible #42 - 8.35
070. Sub-Mariner #1 - 5.54
071. Highwaymen #1 - 7.87
072. Superman/Batman #37 - 4.6
073. Dynamo 5 #5 - 6.28
074. Annihilation: Conquest - Wraith #1 - 6.63
075. Lone Ranger #7 - 7.54
076. X-Men #201 - 4.76
077. Metal Men #1 - 6.18
078. Green Lantern #22 - 7.85
079. Pilot Season: Ripclaw - 5.89
080. X-Men: First Class #3 - 7.53
081. Teen Titans #50 - 8.02
082. Buffy the Vampire Slayer #6 - 6.96
083. Punisher War Journal #11 - 5.22
084. World War Hulk #4 - 6.96
085. All-Star Batman & Robin #7 - 6.43
086. Vinyl Underground #1 - 5.73
087. Green Arrow & Black Canary #1 - 8.27
088. The Sword #1 - 6.89
089. She-Hulk #22 - 7.38
090. Tales of the Fear Agent: Twelve Steps in One - 6.18
091. Annihilation: Conquest #1 - 6.93
092. Batman and the Outsiders #1 - 6.87
093. Flash #234 - 5.72
094. Gotham Underground #2 - 5.52
095. Ultimates 3 #1 - 4.8
096. Amazing Spider-Girl #15 - 6
097. Birds of Prey #113 - 7.16
098. Pax Romana #1 - 8.59
099. Hack/Slash #7 - 6.97
100. HULK #1 - 7.19
101. Booster Gold #6 - 7.68
102. Order #7 - 6.97
103. Narcopolis #1 - 5.37
104. Reviewer's Choice
105. Tiny Titans #1 - 6.81
106. Loaded Bible 3: Communion - 8.68
107. Project Superpowers #1 - 5.93
108. Echo #1 - 8.34
109. Mighty Avengers #10 - 7.12
110. Iron Man: Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. #27 - 7.73
111. Proof #6 - 8.48
112. Secret Invasion #1 - 7.95
113. Titans #1 - 6
114. Noble Causes #32 - 7.26
115. Hulk vs. Hercules: When Titans Collide - 7.39
116. DC Universe 0 - 4.94
117. House of Mystery #1 - 7.77
118. Captain Britain and MI:13 #1 - 7.36
119. Checkmate #26 - 4.09
120. Final Crisis #1 - 6.91
121. The Boys #19 - 8.3
122. Skaar: Son of Hulk #1 - 5.53
123. Transformers Spotlight: Cyclonus - 5.92
124. Trinity #4 - 5.15
125. Jonah Hex #33 - 8.7
126. I Kill Giants #1 - 7.55
127. Batgirl #1 - 5.23
128. Uncanny X-Men #500 - 6.22
129. Wildcats #1 - 7.33
130. Venom: Dark Origin #1 - 7.16
131. Astonishing X-Men #26 - 5.12
132. Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds #1 - 7.67
133. Runaways #1 - 7.34
134. Marvel Apes #1 - 6.15
135. Star Wars: The Clone Wars #1 - 6.22
136. Iron Man: Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. #33 - 7.25
137. Back to Brooklyn #1 - 5.58
138. Four Eyes #1 - 9.42
139. Green Lantern Corps #29 - 6.16
140. Ghost Rider #28 - 7.44
141. Unknown Soldier #1 - 8.66
142. Amazing Spider-Man #575 - 6.98
143. Final Crisis: Resist - 6.44
144. Batman: Cacophony #1 - 7.37
145. Deadpool #4 - 6.57
146. Ms. Marvel #33 - 5.97
147. Secret Invasion #8 - 7.15
148. Punisher: War Zone #1 - 7.17
149. Ex Machina #40 - 8.11
150. Immortal Iron Fist #21 - 8.21
151. Incognito #1 - 8.65
152. Punisher #1 - 6.25
153. G.I. Joe #1 - 6.68
154. Hellblazer #251 - 6.94
155. Justice Society of America #23 - 6.53
156. Watchmen - 9.86
157. Batman #686 - 8.84
158. Amber Atoms #1 - 4.25
159. Runaways #7 - 5.25 (Column)
160. Superman: World of New Krypton #1 - 6.68 (Column)
161. Guardians of the Galaxy #11 - 6.41 (Column)
162. Invincible #60 - 7.08 (Column)
163. Muppet Show #1 - 6.66 (Column)
164. Flash: Rebirth #1 - 6.93 (Column)
165. Wolverine: Weapon X #1 - 6.4 (Column)
166. The Strange Adventures of H.P. Lovecraft #1 - 7.82 (Column)
167. Ghost Rider #34 - 8.82 (Column)
168. Phonogram: The Singles Club #2 - 6.33 (Column)
169. Final Crisis Aftermath: Run! #1 - 7 (Column)
170. Unwritten #1 - 8.53 (Column)
171. The Boys: Herogasm #1 - 7.09 (Column)
172. Last Days of Animal Man #1 - 6.23 (Column)
173. Batman and Robin #1 - 8.01 (Column)
174. Amazing Spider-Man #597 - 7.19 (Column)
175. Transformers Spotlight: Cliffjumper - 6.75 (Column)
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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:00 am

Well here goes nothing, there are various aspects of this review that I am sure I will get what for about. Just remember, I call them like I see them and boy, am I glad someone else got assigned this book.

My long standing problem with the X Books is that they lack any subtlety. For much of their history, they have been an overbearing allegory to the equal rights movement and racial tensions. I am fine with these as subject matter, think they are important even, but much like Ennis talking crazy about WWII and Superheroes, something about making an action comic be a statement on this important issue rubs me the wrong way.

This issue finally brings the books to what I feared when the X-Men relocated to San Francisco. Now the book seems to have given up its racial theme and taken on gay rights. Let it be said now, that I, actually, as a white male heterosexual Christian, am in full support of the marriage between any two people who make the commitment to have a monogamous relationship - no matter their sexual orientation, races, creeds, yada yada yada. My problem is that having a debate over “mutant breeding” and having protestors hoisting signs one way or the other over “Proposition X” lacks any thought process and actually seems to kind of belittle the actual real world concerns that are being debated across the country.

That being said, it also brings a smile to my face, because it reminds me of Kevin Smith on the Tonight Show talking about how disappointed he was that Bryan Singer had left the X-Men franchise. He was hoping X-Men 3 would be a big gay musical, it was one of the funniest things I had heard at the time and I was astonished at the level he was allowed to be irreverent on national broadcast television.

Anyhow, now that I have lost e-friends, let me talk more about what I like about this comic. There are lots of things to dig about this story. It is cool to see things heat up in this issue. It all smacks of normal X-men though which was another problem I had with the move, in the end it was just a different setting not the big status quo change that was promised. This is seen when Cyclops is handcuffed or when the police move on the Mutants.

What really impressed me was Fraction’s handling of the Dark Avengers. By isolating them and giving them solo missions, he shows an ability to voice many characters at once, something that has defined his Uncanny run and made it all the more enjoyable. He shows both Trask and Osborn making the kind of spin maneuvering that makes at least old goblin head an interesting character. The way that Trask weasels out of his group really starting things is genius in its execution and again, we have a writer other than Bendis really making the political machine behind the Dark Avengers seem plausible. It would be nice if Bendis could manage that feat.

Showing each of the characters on their own shows their flaws. Even after being told that cameras will be everywhere, Ms. Marvel and Hawkeye spout off things that would best not be said in public, hopefully Fraction will capitalize on this later. Sure, the team does crap like this all the time, but Bendis shows no reaction to it outside of the rogue Superhero community, what happens when real people hear Hawkeye say he wants to kill?

There are also some annoying things. Seems Fraction only wants to box the characters that are on the Marquee. Some of the Young X-Men and others running around need identification and power explanations more than the people he has repeatedly done it for many issues now. I do like the smart assedness of some of them though.

On to what I really truly dislike about this issue though. The art. First of all, let it be known that I am not a Silvestri fan. Of all the Jim Lee clones that appeared in the nineties, Silvestri is the one I liked the least. He never really seemed to get his own thing going and even here seems to be paying homage to some of the people who spawned from him. The fervent manner in which some people follow him and his school is disturbing.

That being said, I don’t think a lot of the problems here are purely his fault. There is a small army of pencillers and inkers listed here, consistency will become a problem when you have that many cooks in the kitchen. It also makes me wonder about Silvestri’s commitment to the project. If he is only doing this one shot and the normal teams are doing the chapters and Deodato the other bookend, then why could he not complete the pencils himself. There was plenty of lead time assuming that he had already started the project when it was announced and worked on it for those months that the Dark X-Men postcards set on the counters of shops across the country. But, I’ll stop soapboxing about the unprofessional nature of the comics industry today (for now).

The end result hurts this book. There are mad crazy morphs of characters along the way. There are even moments of Liefeldian inproportionness. Hawkeye has a giant arm. Cyclops inherits Leno’s chin in one frame. It’s a shame too, because there are shots of pure comic gold, like Ares leaping from the sky.

Then there are the questions... what does the folder with the big X say? Is that Dark Beast Emma is presented with? I though Prof X could walk now? What is the deal with the Dark X? If Beast was arrested, is the mayor in cohoots with Norman? What’s got Emma so excited? Will this be the beginning of the end for Norman’s new world order? Tune in next time.

Story 8 (despite my problems with thematics and nit picking, I really enjoyed this, especially for an X title)
Art 4

Overall 7 (not letting my distaste for the artist drag the score down too low)

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Postby Mr_Batman » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:13 am

See, that cover is so much better

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Postby ****** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:14 am

Damn 4thy, why did you have to go and try to steal Punchy's new shtick like that? :? :P
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Postby ****** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:16 am

Mr_Batman wrote:See, that cover is so much better


Only if by 'better' you mean an endless source of fugliness. :wink:

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Postby 48THRiLLS » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:19 am

I am with you on the hot weather being all kinds of suck... that is why I moved out of SoCal to Portland Oregon... is it wrong that I hope this book sucks so I don't have to get involved in this damn crossover???

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Postby Mr_Batman » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:22 am

amlah6 wrote:Only if by 'better' you mean an endless source of fugliness. :wink:

I mean in which the people actually have legs and right-sized arms :wink:

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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:23 am

amlah6 wrote:Damn 4thy, why did you have to go and try to steal Punchy's new shtick like that? :? :P

it was my shtick first dammit! :-D

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Postby ThrillHouse » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:24 am

man and I've been avoiding Dark Reign stuff.....Ugh, Alrighty. Review SOON!
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Postby ****** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:25 am

Mr_Batman wrote:I mean in which the people actually have legs and right-sized arms :wink:


But true to 90's style, you can't see any feet. :P

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Postby ****** » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:27 am

thefourthman wrote:it was my shtick first dammit! :-D


Really? I don't remember any of your old reviews. :? :twisted: :P

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Postby Mr_Batman » Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:29 am

amlah6 wrote:But true to 90's style, you can't see any feet. :P

Wow. You win this round......

I guess I'm buying this to check it out. I don't know when I can travel to my LCS though

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Postby Punchy » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:15 am

amlah6 wrote:Damn 4thy, why did you have to go and try to steal Punchy's new shtick like that? :? :P


My schtick? What schtick?

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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:23 am

Punchy wrote:My schtick? What schtick?

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That's not schtick! It's talent!

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