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Postby xaraan » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:55 am

Jude Terror wrote:You really think so? Joe Q has done a pretty good job of keeping Marvel relevant and in the news a lot, even if many fans dislike what he's done creatively.


They won't shake anything up at marvel right away; but I'd be shocked if after his contract is over they keep him. Maybe if marvel is still doing really well, but the bigger the corp, the faster they dump you for the slightest blame just to make it look like they are doing something for their shareholders.

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Postby outsider » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:57 am

w axl milton wrote:This excites me as someone with children that love both Disney and Marvel characters.
Same here.
Maybe I can start spending Disney Dollars on Marvel TPBs! 8)
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Postby Chris » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:58 am

Warren Ellis' twitter wrote:so I got this phone call from Joe Quesada and it was just the sound of him rubbing himself with money and now I am confused


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Postby Chris » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:59 am

Also.. what does this mean for Marvel's acquisition of Marvelman?

If there really are still some rights issues to work out.. having Disney's bank behind you sure can't hurt!
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Postby xaraan » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:59 am

Chris wrote:On the comics front, I don't think so, no. But we really don't know enough right now to say either way, which is why I think it's all knee-jerkyness. People always expect the worst.


I don't think the worst.
I think there could be some cool things done with Pixar (nothing that couldnt have been done with a good partnership or deal though).

But yea, I think on the comics front you will see more things like OMD where shit gets reset if any real changes are/were ever made. You will not see major changes to characters made, so there will be less characterization than there is now. I'd be shocked if we don't slowly see any risks taken in the mature or ind. owned areas, MAYBE they will keep a proven money maker like a mature punisher or wolverine series.

As someone that tends to like comics with a more adult/mature angle, even my spiderman comics; this buyout does not look good to me.

As a kid whose first comics were donald duck and other disney comics which led me into spiderman and xmen; it's ironic though.

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Postby Zab » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:00 pm

thefourthman wrote:Disney isn't Time Warner, they care and that will be part of why they wanted them. Look they just liscensed the Pixar properties to Boom and saw Boom become a player as a result. This is huge and Disney will want control of the publishing just like everything else. They will not sweep in and make changes. But this is great news all around.

Hopefully it means a return to kids comics, despite what Zabardast says, kids don't really read them anymore... it also should mean a more business minded eye placed on the publishing so that going forward, comics can be on the rise again.

Kids aren't ever going to be reading $3.99 comic books. So hopefully Disney can do something about that.

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Postby Chris » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:01 pm

xaraan wrote:I don't think the worst.
I think there could be some cool things done with Pixar (nothing that couldnt have been done with a good partnership or deal though).

But yea, I think on the comics front you will see more things like OMD where shit gets reset if any real changes are/were ever made. You will not see major changes to characters made, so there will be less characterization than there is now. I'd be shocked if we don't slowly see any risks taken in the mature or ind. owned areas, MAYBE they will keep a proven money maker like a mature punisher or wolverine series.

As someone that tends to like comics with a more adult/mature angle, even my spiderman comics; this buyout does not look good to me.

As a kid whose first comics were donald duck and other disney comics which led me into spiderman and xmen; it's ironic though.


Big changes weren't made anyway. When is the last time you saw a major change to a big character that stuck around?
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Postby bkthomson » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:02 pm

Vic Vega wrote:This.


Marvel sold out what little artistic integrity it had left around the time Jemas got the boot.


And this is not a bad thing. Se we'd like to see Nick, Ben and Logan smoking a cigar because of those fun poker game scenes but I do not think in any way that it neuters the characters.
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Postby xaraan » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:02 pm

The reason people worry is look at DC,

a comic company will make decisions a lot differently than a corporation owning licensing product will.

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Postby bkthomson » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:03 pm

Zabardast wrote:Kids aren't ever going to be reading $3.99 comic books. So hopefully Disney can do something about that.


Agreed it will more likely be a lot of pocket digest format books.
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Postby xaraan » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:03 pm

Chris wrote:Big changes weren't made anyway. When is the last time you saw a major change to a big character that stuck around?



I don't agree they have started watering down already, the bigger the movies got; the worse the marvel product got. This will just accelerate things.

And also effect things in the other ways I talked about.

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Postby Chris » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:03 pm

xaraan wrote:The reason people worry is look at DC,

a comic company will make decisions a lot differently than a corporation owning licensing product will.


DC, which happens to have some of the most mature books in the industry under it's umbrella?
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Postby Zab » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:03 pm

Chris wrote:Big changes weren't made anyway. When is the last time you saw a major change to a big character that stuck around?

Wolverine got his memories back?

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Postby Chris » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:04 pm

Zabardast wrote:Wolverine got his memories back?


That wasn't so much a reset or what Xaraan was talking about, though. I think that's a bit different.
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Postby bkthomson » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:05 pm

xaraan wrote:The reason people worry is look at DC,

a comic company will make decisions a lot differently than a corporation owning licensing product will.


I know I already said this. But for such a long time WB had no idea that they owned DC let lone what to do with them and their characters that were not Batman or Superman.

We are in such a Comic Book Movie boom that Disney at least will have plan. Plus these are characters that are so far outside their norm it helps expand their library.
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