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Postby thefourthman » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:34 pm

McKegan wrote:Isn't the Siege where they're going?

which will be the top of the next bottomless pit that the wheels hover above.

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Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:34 pm

thefifthman wrote:okay BETTER part of a fucking year.
And UTOPIA did squat except bring the x-men into it.


Um... remove Emma and Namor from the Cabal? Norman's attempts to replace them are what causes Siege to begin.

Utopia has also been felt in New Avengers, and directly lead into Ronin's actions in The List: Avengers.

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Postby thefourthman » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:35 pm

Punchy wrote:Um... remove Emma and Namor from the Cabal? Norman's attempts to replace them are what causes Siege to begin.

Utopia has also been felt in New Avengers, and directly lead into Ronin's actions in The List: Avengers.

so it effected a one shot that went nowhere. and the book that has been in a holding pattern. okay. good job. I was wrong. Utopia is the most important comic of our time.

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Postby McKegan » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:37 pm

thefifthman wrote:which will be the top of the next bottomless pit that the wheels hover above.


So the real problem is these big events that force a bunch of books to acknowledge, not so much the absence of a 'story'?

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Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:37 pm

thefifthman wrote:so it effected a one shot that went nowhere. and the book that has been in a holding pattern. okay. good job. I was wrong. Utopia is the most important comic of our time.


I never said it was that, but it was definitely a turning point in DR. And The List is going to lead into New Avengers Annual #3 out in December.

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Postby Victorian Squid » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:38 pm

Maybe I just don't like the event-after-event philosophy Joe Q has been so successful with--and I think twice before spending an extra buck on a lot of those books that don't seem great to me. All of the Marvel books I read right now (Cap, FF, etc) all are not bogged down in DR territory. Just don't enjoy reading the rest right now.
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Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:38 pm

House of J wrote:Maybe I just don't like the event-after-event philosophy Joe Q has been so successful with--and I think twice before spending an extra buck on a lot of those books that don't seem great to me. All of the Marvel books I read right now (Cap, FF, etc) all are not bogged down in DR territory. Just don't enjoy reading the rest right now.


Cap Reborn is pretty Osborn heavy.

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Postby thefourthman » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:40 pm

McKegan wrote:So the real problem is these big events that force a bunch of books to acknowledge, not so much the absence of a 'story'?

no it is that a bunch of books a forced to acknowledge a story and then there is no story, it just goes on until the next part of the story happens and then there is no movement... event - status quo - nothing happens - event - status quo- nothing happens, rinse and repeat.

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Postby Victorian Squid » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:42 pm

Punchy wrote:Cap Reborn is pretty Osborn heavy.


I'm talking about the regular series on hiatus, and you knew that. :roll:

The only reason to read Reborn is to see how Brubaker gets Steve back and because it hopefully explains what the hell Red Skull was doing for 30+ issues of the main book. Reborn has been pretty bad.

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Postby McKegan » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:42 pm

House of J wrote:Maybe I just don't like the event-after-event philosophy Joe Q has been so successful with--and I think twice before spending an extra buck on a lot of those books that don't seem great to me. All of the Marvel books I read right now (Cap, FF, etc) all are not bogged down in DR territory. Just don't enjoy reading the rest right now.


I've got to agree. I'm getting a bit burnt out on it. Unfortunately, while they keep helping to sell books, I don't see it changing.

Although, one of my favorite books, Angengers:Initiative has been arguably the most tied into all these events.

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Postby Old Man » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:46 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:You fuckers. We have to read Ares next week when this is out. I hate you all sometimes. I hate you all.


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Postby Old Man » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:48 pm

Punchy wrote:But because it's got a Big Red M on the cover, it sucks?


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Postby Victorian Squid » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:48 pm

McKegan wrote:I've got to agree. I'm getting a bit burnt out on it. Unfortunately, while they keep helping to sell books, I don't see it changing.

Although, one of my favorite books, Angengers:Initiative has been arguably the most tied into all these events.


See, I think we just burned out a little sooner is all. I burned out 3/4 through Secret Invasion, when Bendis really started to stutter with the narrative throughout the main book and tie-ins.

I don't mind if you other folks enjoy it, but it has shoe-horned me practically clear out of the 616.

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Postby Punchy » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:48 pm

House of J wrote:I'm talking about the regular series on hiatus, and you knew that. :roll:

The only reason to read Reborn is to see how Brubaker gets Steve back and because it hopefully explains what the hell Red Skull was doing for 30+ issues of the main book. Reborn has been pretty bad.


You said all the books you were currently reading, how can you currently read a book that's on hiatus? It makes sense that you'd be referring to Reborn.

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Postby Victorian Squid » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:49 pm

Punchy wrote:You said all the books you were currently reading, how can you currently read a book that's on hiatus? It makes sense that you'd be referring to Reborn.


:roll: And you have the audacity to accuse other people of nitpicking, do you?

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