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[daitong]

Yeah. You think people would just shut up as usually it's just people voicing their own displeasure rather than anything of substance.

That said, even though I don't like current DC, I don't think Didio would be leaving anytime soon. It's possible but not likely.

Plus, isn't DC making bank with all these Crises cash cows?

[superfictious]

Plus, isn't DC making bank with all these Crises cash cows?

They're definitely not losing any money. Personally, I think any EiC should have a limited term of no more than 6 years to avoid the risk of stagnation. I think JoeQ and Didio seem to both be running on fumes creatively, but they're both making money for their company so it doesn't matter.

[john lewis hawk]

Plus, isn't DC making bank with all these Crises cash cows?

I think so.

i think the one thing that is hurting DC right now is how successful Marvel is so if the higher-ups want to directly rival Marvel's success, they may look to replace Didio or even Paul Levitiz but I think DC is comfortable where they are.

[daitong]

I think so.

i think the one thing that is hurting DC right now is how successful Marvel is so if the higher-ups want to directly rival Marvel's success, they may look to replace Didio or even Paul Levitiz but I think DC is comfortable where they are.

That has to be because of the films, right? The Dark Knight comes out in a month, that should generate some momentum for DC. But the wind does seem to be in Marvel's sails at the moment.

[jeremy]

well, damn whether or not it's true!!! It's the closest thing I've come to comic news that everybody didn't already know. I'm not into comics as much as I used to be!!! I'm out of the loop damnit.

now go answer my How do you? thread question Hawk.

[john lewis hawk]

That has to be because of the films, right? The Dark Knight comes out in a month, that should generate some momentum for DC. But the wind does seem to be in Marvel's sails at the moment.

Yeah but I think that's an uphill battle as Marvel has had many films come out recently compared to DC and Marvel is creating a shared universe with their films at the moment. It should be interesting if DC gets their act together with their films.

[diana_fan]

Marvel is going to be more "successful" than DC (if by successful you mean Diamond orders) pretty generally, I think.

1) Marvel HAS to be. They're a publicly traded company, on their own essentially.

2) Marvel has certain franchises (X-Men, Spider-Man) that are always going to be successful, and appeal to a wide range of readers. Also, the more down to Earth nature of Marvel as a milieu probably helps.

All that being said, DC Comics is part of a massive multi-national entertainment conglomerate. What T-W wants out of DC is some profit on the comics side, and the ability to make more cash on licensing DC property.

From a business perspective (as opposed to a msg board fanboy perspective) if DC is managing to bring in some money with individual issues, trades, HCs, and the rest, then it's gravy. How they match up to Marvel, I shouldn't think, is much of a concern to the board members of Time Warner.

[Spidey-Man]

Exactly. It's not so much that no one thinks it will happen, or even might or should happen.

There's just no evidence that it will, just unsubstantiated "rumors", some disappointed fans, fans who care a lot more about sales figures than they have any reason to, and a disgruntled ex-employee who isn't even naming names.

That can often start the ball rolling though.

Just like baseball.

If the event fizzles, and the fans are unhappy and the talent is unhappy and Marvel is kicking their asses, well, pressure will mount

[diana_fan]

That can often start the ball rolling though.

Just like baseball.

If the event fizzles, and the fans are unhappy and the talent is unhappy and Marvel is kicking their asses, well, pressure will mount

But the only happiness that matters is T-W.

[The Comedian]

If we're lucky...

[john lewis hawk]

But the only happiness that matters is T-W.

True but they might just not give a damn. These are the same people who thought about killing off Nightwing just because there was low sells due to bad writing...

[diana_fan]

True but they might just not give a damn. These are the same people who thought about killing off Nightwing just because there was low sells due to bad writing...

Well, my argument has always been that T-W doesn't care about ANY of the stuff we talk about on msg boards or blogs.

The see some numbers on a bottom line after a '$' and that's what matters. Plus, of course (and more to the point) licensing potential.

One of the points that blog tried to make was the various reactions to FC #1. Now, does ANYONE really believe that there's some T-W board member reading about continuity problems between Countdown and FC #1? Really?

It's just absurd.

[john lewis hawk]

Well, my argument has always been that T-W doesn't care about ANY of the stuff we talk about on msg boards or blogs.

The see some numbers on a bottom line after a '$' and that's what matters. Plus, of course (and more to the point) licensing potential.

One of the points that blog tried to make was the various reactions to FC #1. Now, does ANYONE really believe that there's some T-W board member reading about continuity problems between Countdown and FC #1? Really?

It's just absurd.

Yeah, I agree. There's the possibility they might be paying attention but I doubt it.

[Cat-Scratch]

They're definitely not losing any money. Personally, I think any EiC should have a limited term of no more than 6 years to avoid the risk of stagnation. I think JoeQ and Didio seem to both be running on fumes creatively, but they're both making money for their company so it doesn't matter.

Just like TV or film or music, the comic buyers will buy whatever crap is out there for their entertainment fix. Habits die hard.

But at least the kiddies are reading.

I still think that they should swapped for a year. That way some can finally shut the fuck up about them. They are after all doing a job. Rolling those dice for speculator/fanboy gold.

[Cat-Scratch]

Well, my argument has always been that T-W doesn't care about ANY of the stuff we talk about on msg boards or blogs.

The see some numbers on a bottom line after a '$' and that's what matters. Plus, of course (and more to the point) licensing potential.

One of the points that blog tried to make was the various reactions to FC #1. Now, does ANYONE really believe that there's some T-W board member reading about continuity problems between Countdown and FC #1? Really?

It's just absurd.

Yes, I do.

And then they were bludgeoned to death for it and for not drinking enough of the company's booze.

WHERE'S CARMINE INFANTINO AND ROY "THE BOY" THOMAS TO SAVE US ALL NOW!!!!!