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Forbush Man wrote:I was a quiet baby.
And I'll teach my children tough love.
Zenguru wrote:They have to get past the cup of espresso first. Kids tend to forget about the kitten after their first sip.
eyp wrote:you should start following nerdygirl's advice.
CountD wrote:you were prettier in person, too.
Epidemic_Spider wrote:So you admit I'm more fun than Nieto
GOSD wrote:I admit nothing!Yes.
Strict31 wrote:Huh. Nerdygirl's got some booty on her. Kind of a surprise there, Emma.
Woody wrote:While there are exceptions- I think allot of of people who complain are too easily annoyed
kingofcities wrote:Whatever. That's what parents say to rationalize the irritating of complete strangers with your offspring. Sorry. 90% of the time you see a kid crying in public the parents aren't even attempting to do anything about it. The ol' "he'll wind himself down" approach. That's bullshit. tral is right. Get the kid out of the store/restaurant/wherever. Or in lieu of that at least try to calm them them down in some way shape or form.
kingbobb wrote:While we make every effort to keep our kids from annoying other people, bear in mind...you ARE in public. Thankfully, Illinois has all but banned smoking in public. But we just spent a few days up in Milwaukee, and Wisconsin still hasn't done much to regulate smoking in public. I find having to suffer someone's second hand smoke far more invasive than dealing with a child that's having issues...and last I checked, people don't develop cancer from hearing a toddler crying about how he wanted one more whatever it was.
Parents should be aware of the imposition they make on other people. At the same time, other people, especially those without kids, need to be aware that removing the child as soon as the wailing starts isn't always the first and best option to make. That mother that left the crying child on behind while she went on ahead? Good move. She's taken a step further in teaching that child that throwing a tantrum is not the way to get something accomplished. If she'd picked the child up immediately and removed them from the store, that child would have learned that throwing a fit is an excellent way to get attention. And young kids have a hard time differentiating between good and bad attention, so the negative aspect would mostly be lost on them.
Woody wrote:no- I agree with your movie story and I have done it myself,
But often times- people are too quick to get irritated
kingofcities wrote:Okay, and runaway trains are more dangerous than butterflies. ??? The smoking thing is irrelevent to this discussion.
kingbobb wrote:No, it's not. It's a similar imposition on the people around you. Just as people with and without kids don't want to be subjected to other people's crying children, I and most everyone else don't want to be subjected to other people's second hand smoke. But unless your state has passed laws regulating smoking, there's not a whole lot you can do about it except leave.
So I don't see why people should accept or expect that parents of crying children should automatically be the ones to have to leave a situation. Sure, it's the polite and considerate thing to do. But when it comes down to it, if you're in public, and the owner/operator of the place you're at won't do anything to address the problem, you can always leave.
And consider this...that parent? They don't get to leave. Even if they get a babysitter, they always have to come back and face that child again. So whatever they do, they are the ones that have to deal with the consequences of how they choose to act on it. Xavy's had some tantrums, and anyone who's tried to hold a kid that's determined NOT to be held should be able to attest to just how difficult it can be. When he wants down, there's not much I can do short of injuring him to hold him. In that case, the best thing to do is apologize to the people around you, and just let the kid work it out.