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Review Group Week 214 - IRREDEEMABLE #12

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Postby thefourthman » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:52 am

Jubilee wrote:I don't even like/read ASM!

shut up! like it! read it! it is your duty as slave to Punchy!

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Postby Punchy » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:19 pm

Irredeemable #12 - Untitled - Waid, Krause and Barreto

Story - Mark Waid's Irredeemable is probably the Indie success story of 2009, it's dark and vicious take on various DC archetypes, in particular a crazed Superman has been a lot of fun. Waid knows enough so much about Superman, that it's a joy to see someone with so much passion undercutting and making his hero into a villain. I've particularly enjoyed how Waid has built the Universe, through flashback, and also through companion book Incorruptible, the Irredeemaverse is a fantastic addition to comics.

Which is why it's annoying that this week's issue isn't exactly the best we've seen, and is quite disappointing. There are still strong elements, but I wasn't feeling it like usual. I think much of that comes down to the scenes involving the Paradigm (the JLA) fighting Orian, a big grey demon. The majority of these characters have not been particularly well-developed, and when it comes to a character like Bette Noir, who is really central here, who's analogue isn't especially apparent (a bit of Black Canary? A bit of Hawkgirl? Huh?), it's hard to care about her. The scenes where she breaks down and admits to some great crime (I'm, not quite sure what it is, not telling everyone about that magic candle? Or is the big reveal still to come? I didn't really care. Cary's heel turn is also annoying me, as is the Government's involvement, let's get back to the core of the book and have the Paradigm fight the Plutonian!

Things are better on the Plutonian side of things however. Tony really is a fascinating character, I love seeing his thought process, he's just so fucked-up, but you can also see where he's coming from in a way. What he does to his adopted family is just shocking. I'm also interested by the Samsara/Modeus plotline, Waid has handled this very well, very subtly, and I can't wait to see what happens.

So, this was only really a half-decent issue of Irredeemable, the Paradigm scenes were disappointing, but the Tony stuff was just as good, if not better than what came before. But every issue of this book is part of the wider tapestry, and you can't really discount this issue, he could become retroactively awesome. Who knows? I was a huge fan of JMS and Gary Frank's sadly abandoned Supreme Power, and Irredeemable continues to fill that gap for me, I enjoy it every month, and while this issue was a little bit of a let-down, the book is still very much worth picking up.

Art - The art is also a game of two halves this issue, the first 12 pages are drawn by Barreto, and his work is adequate, but lacks polish, once Peter Krause steps back in, things improve, along with the story. Krause really is a good fit for this book, his style is clean and classic, perfect for contrasting what Superman analogues should be, with what Irredeemable is. It's a shame he's been falling behind and not been able to pencil the entirety of each issue, but hey, Barreto is OK really.

Best Line - 'Cheerio'

6.8/10

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Postby Punchy » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:00 pm

Hmm, looks like MrBlack managed to beat me word-count wise.

I think I used up all my words on American Vampire.

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Postby thefourthman » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:04 pm

Punchy wrote:Hmm, looks like MrBlack managed to beat me word-count wise.

I think I used up all my words on American Vampire.

excuses, excuses.

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Postby Punchy » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:06 pm

thefourthman wrote:excuses, excuses.


I thought you thought I was too long-winded anyway?

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Postby thefourthman » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:07 pm

Punchy wrote:I thought you thought I was too long-winded anyway?

so... :?

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Postby Punchy » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:07 pm

thefourthman wrote:so... :?


You're almost as much of a hypocrite as Frag.

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Postby thefourthman » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:08 pm

Punchy wrote:You're almost as much of a hypocrite as Frag.

I'm not a hypocrite, you are long winded sometimes. Not all the time... you have me confused with Yoni, first off.

Secondly, since when have you cared about anything I had to say?

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Postby Punchy » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:09 pm

thefourthman wrote:I'm not a hypocrite, you are long winded sometimes. Not all the time... you have me confused with Yoni, first off.

Secondly, since when have you cared about anything I had to say?


Since you started trying to get me into trouble!

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Postby thefourthman » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:11 pm

Punchy wrote:Since you started trying to get me into trouble!

You do well enough at that on your own, every once in a while when I see you teetering on the edge of the swimming pool, I give you a push. Sorry, it makes me laugh. I blame it on me being a bully.

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Postby Punchy » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:15 pm

thefourthman wrote:You do well enough at that on your own, every once in a while when I see you teetering on the edge of the swimming pool, I give you a push. Sorry, it makes me laugh. I blame it on me being a bully.


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Postby guitarsmashley » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:40 pm

Still don't know if I'll get this. I've already ordered the trade and just don't feel like reading the 3 previous issues off my computer.
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Postby Old Man » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:52 pm

thefourthman wrote:FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHY WAS THIS NOT THE PICK THIS WEEK!!!


Because it's from a publisher nobody has heard of.
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Postby Old Man » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:53 pm

guitarsmashley wrote:how many fucking issues of Amazing Spiderman are we going to review before we just ban the book from appearing here?


Actually, I was thinking maybe I'd make it my pick in 2 weeks.
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Postby Old Man » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:08 pm

A complaint, a confession, and a whine.

Complaint: By the time I finish typing this, it will be Sunday, and so far, only 2 reviews. Where is everybody?

Confession: No review from me this week. I just don't have it in me. Details below.

Whine: I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. Actually, that last 'tired' is really 'sore'. My foot hurts. I did nothing to injure it. I was in my recliner watching a basketball game the other evening. I got up to use the bathroom, and my foot was aching. It's still sore, and causing me to walk funny, but for 2 days it hurt so bad I was thinking it might have to come off. I have a 3-foot-high stool, and I had to use it as a walker to get from my bed to the bathroom, from the bathroom to the kitchen, from the kitchen to the living room. And when I had to go out Friday to get to the bank, I hobbled around like an 80-year-old codger. I was leaning on anything and everything to keep pressure off my foot. As I said, it's better today, but still sore. And I woke up Friday with a fever and no appetite. I was 3 degrees above normal, I tried to eat, but ended up throwing half of it away because it just wasn't sitting right. Temperature is back to normal today, but I'm a little lightheaded right now. It's been a week.
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