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by **TimDrake'sDumbWings** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:51 pm

I'm surprised that no one is discussing this. Isn't this supposed to be "the biggest challenge the X-Men have faced?"

Can anyone spoil it for me? I dropped X-Force because of this crossover nonsense, but I'm curious to see how everything will pan out.

by **Flynn the Pirate** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:12 pm

Tony Starks the Ironman wrote:I'm surprised that no one is discussing this. Isn't this supposed to be "the biggest challenge the X-Men have faced?"

Can anyone spoil it for me? I dropped X-Force because of this crossover nonsense, but I'm curious to see how everything will pan out.

Ask and ye shall receive...

[spoiler]Cable and Hope arrive in the present day at the ruins of the Xavier Mansion and are immediately set upon by The Right and The Sapien League. Back on Utopia, the Cuckoos inform Scott, who is becoming increasingly angsty about the the future of Mutants, that Cable is back. Scott sends his A-Team to go and find the two time travellers and bring them back, though it becomes quickly apparent that only X-23, Wolverine, and Angel know who is calling the shots for both of the terrorist groups.

A chase down the freeway takes place, with Cable and Hope trying to outrun the Sapien League. The X-Men arrive and kick butt, but in the process of trying to gain information, Wolverine and Laura start acting in a very "X-Force"-y manner, which causes Nightcrawler and the others to question not only their actions, but also just how much they know about who is calling the shots behind these attacks.

The issue ends with Bastion announcing that he knows that Hope is back and, in a mirror of the scene with Cyclops earlier in the issue, giving marching orders to the Human Council.[/spoiler]

It was a typical "first issue" and so wasn't amazing by any stretch of the imagination. It did, however, have this spread, which I thought was particularly awesome...

[spoiler]

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by **Otacon** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:24 pm

I love how Wolverine and X-23 are expected to NOT murder anyone with their adamantium claws, which is the sharpest metal on earth. Nightcrawler has clearly not been paying attention for a while now.

by **Flynn the Pirate** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:31 pm

Otacon wrote:I love how Wolverine and X-23 are expected to NOT murder anyone with their adamantium claws, which is the sharpest metal on earth. Nightcrawler has clearly not been paying attention for a while now.

I don't think it was as much that they were killing people as it was the brutality of how X and Wolverine were approaching it. I mean, there's a big difference between killing someone who is trying to kill you and what Laura does to the Sapien League member during the interrogation.

Also, I think some of his reaction was to the increasing knowledge that they were being kept in the dark.

by **doombug** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:33 pm

Yeah Laura went over the line but that is kind of the point of X-force right now.

by **Flynn the Pirate** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:35 pm

doombug wrote:Yeah Laura went over the line but that is kind of the point of X-force right now.

Agreed, but this wasn't an X-Force mission. It was an X-Men mission, so when folks like Nightcrawler and Colossus see this, their reaction shouldn't come as too much of a surprise.

by **doombug** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:47 pm

Flynn the Pirate wrote:Agreed, but this wasn't an X-Force mission. It was an X-Men mission, so when folks like Nightcrawler and Colossus see this, their reaction shouldn't come as too much of a surprise.

But the x-force team obviously other then wolverine hadn't been working with the main x-men in a while. So Kurt is able to detect that things are different with laura.

by **Flynn the Pirate** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:51 pm

doombug wrote:But the x-force team obviously other then wolverine hadn't been working with the main x-men in a while. So Kurt is able to detect that things are different with laura.

Well, I think it's something kind of along the same lines as what happened with Beast. While Nightcrawler and some of the older X-Men may have been aware that Scott and Logan were up to some shady things and that there were facts that were being hidden from them, there was nothing solid and it never really overtly concerned them. But now that the evidence is building up - or in this case, right in front of their face - they are being confronted with the fact that their friends and teammates are basically thugs and hitmen, not superheroes.

by **Rockman** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:52 pm

I liked this issue it set things up nicely. Sadly Finch's art did not look too good right now, he seems like he is turning into a silvestri clone.

by **IvCNuB4** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:31 pm

Flynn the Pirate wrote:
It was a typical "first issue" and so wasn't amazing by any stretch of the imagination. It did, however, have this spread, which I thought was particularly awesome...

[spoiler][/spoiler]

What exactly was Warren's role on this strike-team ? To cast menacing shadows on the ground ? :-D

by **Benderbrau** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:40 pm

IvCNuB4 wrote:What exactly was Warren's role on this strike-team ? To cast menacing shadows on the ground ?

It was weird that Kurt's outrage was addressed to Logan, Laura and Warren? What the heck did Warren do that Kurt saw? He didn't even turn into Archangel.

by **Benderbrau** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:44 pm

I like where this story is going but what's going to piss me off the most is that the story crosses over into all the X books and that includes X-Men Legacy drawn by Greg "Banky Edwards" Land. I swore I'd never buy anything that hack draws...er traces. So now I'm in a conundrum because each X book is a specific chapter. It's not like Siege where you can skip the side books.

by **Dalarsco** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:47 pm

Benderbrau wrote:It was weird that Kurt's outrage was addressed to Logan, Laura and Warren? What the heck did Warren do that Kurt saw? He didn't even turn into Archangel.

I think it's that he knew Warren was involved in it because he has realized that Wolverine, Laura, Warren, and the others have all been disappearing at the same time.