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Postby guitarsmashley » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:32 am

sdsichero wrote:hehe I thought the same thing. He'd pass by WALL*E and check out:
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I will not claim to know a lot about the space simian program but Having at least read First in space which is a Graphic telling of the chimp space program and the first chimp in space was named Ham and that movie makes me very sad because they're making light of some of the cruelest tests we've put animals through.
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Postby Spidey-Man » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:34 am

Heh. Space Chimps, that movie will suck. But they are cute!

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Postby sdsichero » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:02 am

For Wall*E fans, a cool look behind the scenes...

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/06/26/votd-the-making-of-wall-e/

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Postby jza1218 » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:45 am

thefourthman wrote:\
yup that article is based on merchandising. As I remember Cars was disappointing at the Box Office and Ratatouille was only more so.


You do know that Cars made more than Toy Story right?

And Ratatouille made 620 million worldwide ranking it third among Pixar films in terms of worldwide gross. Only $10 Million less than the more marketable Incredibles too

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Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:50 am

Adjusted for inflation in the US:

Finding Nemo BV $387,601,800
Toy Story 2 BV $329,115,300
Monsters, Inc. BV $310,206,200
Toy Story BV $301,814,100
The Incredibles BV $289,166,100
Cars BV $256,380,300
A Bug's Life BV $234,852,300
Ratatouille BV $206,445,700

All beaten by Shrek 2
Shrek 2 DW $488,830,400

and most by the other Shreks

Shrek DW $325,359,600 3
Shrek the Third P/DW $322,719,900

Ratatouille also made less than Ice Age, Happy Feet, and Madagscar domestically when adjusted for inflation

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Postby Jack Burton » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:11 am

Spiderrob wrote:Adjusted for inflation in the US:

Finding Nemo BV $387,601,800
Toy Story 2 BV $329,115,300
Monsters, Inc. BV $310,206,200
Toy Story BV $301,814,100
The Incredibles BV $289,166,100
Cars BV $256,380,300
A Bug's Life BV $234,852,300
Ratatouille BV $206,445,700

All beaten by Shrek 2
Shrek 2 DW $488,830,400

and most by the other Shreks

Shrek DW $325,359,600 3
Shrek the Third P/DW $322,719,900

Ratatouille also made less than Ice Age, Happy Feet, and Madagscar domestically when adjusted for inflation


Cars made Disney plenty of money just not at the box office. The article I liked said "Disney Consumer Products expects to reach a grand total of 5 billion in sales since the box office release in 2006." That's why even though other movies made more money Cars is getting a sequel. It's a cash juggernaut.

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Postby jza1218 » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:13 am

Jack Burton wrote:Cars made Disney plenty of money just not at the box office. The article I liked said "Disney Consumer Products expects to reach a grand total of 5 billion in sales since the box office release in 2006." That's why even though other movies made more money Cars is getting a sequel. It's a cash juggernaut.


Cars made 460+ Million worldwide...I'm pretty sure they were content with that

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Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:18 am

That's low though. Speaking solely of the movie grosses, (unadjusted) Nemo made $800 mil plus worldwide, Incredinles $600 million plus, and Ratouille made $600 million plus ( it was not that big a hit here domestically compared to Internationally),

Moviewise, Cars was the low one of this era of Pixar. It fell to Ice Age 2 internationally, had I think the worst reviews of Pixar though still good, and opened rather low domestically.

(also my least favorite, personally).

But yes it did very well merchandise wise. I think it made the most of any Pixar movie merchandise wise.
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Postby Jack Burton » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:19 am

jza1218 wrote:Cars made 460+ Million worldwide...I'm pretty sure they were content with that


Oh yeah it wasn't a flop in anyway. I just can't think of any movie outside of Star Wars that makes that kind of money on toys, games, t-shirts, etc etc.

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Postby jza1218 » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:23 am

Spiderrob wrote:That's low though. Speaking solely of the movie grosses, (unadjusted) Nemo made $800 mil plus worldwide, Incredinles $600 million plus, and Ratouille made $600 million plus ( it was not that big a hit here domestically compared to Internationally),

Moviewise, Cars was the low one of this era of Pixar. It fell to Ice Age 2 internationally, had I think the worst reviews of Pixar though still good, and opened rather low domestically.

(also my least favorite, personally).

But yes it did very well merchandise wise. I think it made the most of any Pixar movie merchandise wise.


That's low in comparison but it's not a small number. Like I said, I'm sure they're content. But you guys make it seem like it was a huge failure that failed to bring money back in

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Postby Spidey-Man » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:24 am

Well obviously if they are making a sequel :)

I'm not that into cars and I didn't find the story or characters all that great. My dad liked it though.

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Postby thefourthman » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:29 am

jza1218 wrote:That's low in comparison but it's not a small number. Like I said, I'm sure they're content. But you guys make it seem like it was a huge failure that failed to bring money back in

the quote from me was that it was disappointing, the expectation is that each movie will make more money then the last. If one performs significantly poorer then the previous one it would be disappointing.

Yes it makes lots of money through merchandising. But the idea of a movie is to make money through the movie. Disappointing doesn't make it a failure, it just means it isn't as successful as they would hope.

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Postby jza1218 » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:13 am

thefourthman wrote:the quote from me was that it was disappointing, the expectation is that each movie will make more money then the last. If one performs significantly poorer then the previous one it would be disappointing.

Yes it makes lots of money through merchandising. But the idea of a movie is to make money through the movie. Disappointing doesn't make it a failure, it just means it isn't as successful as they would hope.


Then the Incredibles was disappointing too because it didnt even come close to Finding Nemo.

I honestly don't believe in that philosophy of expecting more from each subsequent film. Expectations for each film are different and has no bearing on prior films from their ouvre.

For example, they knew that Ratatouille was less marketable than their previous films because of the content and went in with obviously lower expectations then their more family-friendly fare. Just like they knew that Cars would have less potential then their prior films because of the non-human element making less accessible (whereas films prior to this one delved more into the fantasy of possiblities surrounding the human world, this film totally replaced humanity with vehicles).

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